Ha ha lol, nah I really don't want to pirate games and havn't, I have a PS2 and all have genuine copies from the shop..I can even give you pictures if you want. Well anywayz I din't win the auction but there are some other boxes, I now know enough to get started and do what I want to do..i'll still stay around here probably still have to ask a few more questions (one just came to mind, i'll start a new thread) and stuff like that, but you guys have been great. You have totally helped me to understand how certain things work, why you can't do this or that you have all helped me alot thank you

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