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« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2007, 11:26:08 AM » |
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My 360 is one with an original MS28 T/S drive, so not spoofed. Plus, I didn't get the error code @ fall update and my drive was flashed not using the 360 to power it, thus my 360 never ever powerupped without the drive attached. On the other hand, MS just could use different methods of finding and banning hacked DVD FW's. It still could be one of them although not appliable on my 360. Actually I think it's no use anymore to see what it did with the ones banned, as C4E already announced a new FW for the new/not yet flashed 360's, so probably he found something that will make it a real stealth FW this time around. Although they also said that the last time, but probably they really have learned what MS's tricks are. Probably FW stealth was never a great thing to use, because MS simply checked the original FW's and those that couldn't be checked are clearly modified. That's why they talked with the latest updates that FW stealth wasn't needed/implemented anymore. What they probably make is a FW that doesn't make itself stealth/non readable/updatable, but a FW that reads exactly the same over Live to MS but on the console end still does the trick to play backups. THE M A R T, So are you banned? [/quote] Not as far as i know .... 2 consoles (1 Hit & 1 TS). Turned the hitachi on but didn't let it get the update (assuming here that if I was banned it wouldn't offer it). The other one i've left off completely. Not used either for over 3 weeks before the update so it's going to be pretty hit and miss. Never been on live without stealth fw and discs on the TS. |
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« Reply #61 on: May 28, 2007, 05:39:40 PM » |
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Ater the update i flashed my hitachi 0078. till that time it was orginal.
now i am playing online and not banned.
i flashed with power of the 360 and video-cable plugged in and i used the 3.1 firmware.
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« Reply #62 on: May 28, 2007, 08:02:14 PM » |
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I am buying a X360 with FW hack, used. The drive is a Samsung.
I don't know wich FW is used and whether it has been on live with backups. The seller said it wasn't banned, but as far as I understand this can be that it hasn't been banned YET, but is on "the list". Suppose all is happy (no list, no backups on live, stealth FW from beginning) what is the chances of being banned if I only use org. games on live? I can totally live with playing backups offline and buying my online games.
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« Reply #63 on: May 28, 2007, 10:14:20 PM » |
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I am buying a X360 with FW hack, used. The drive is a Samsung.
I don't know wich FW is used and whether it has been on live with backups. The seller said it wasn't banned, but as far as I understand this can be that it hasn't been banned YET, but is on "the list". Suppose all is happy (no list, no backups on live, stealth FW from beginning) what is the chances of being banned if I only use org. games on live? I can totally live with playing backups offline and buying my online games.
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« Reply #64 on: May 29, 2007, 01:49:16 AM » |
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I am buying a X360 with FW hack, used. The drive is a Samsung.
I don't know wich FW is used and whether it has been on live with backups. The seller said it wasn't banned, but as far as I understand this can be that it hasn't been banned YET, but is on "the list". Suppose all is happy (no list, no backups on live, stealth FW from beginning) what is the chances of being banned if I only use org. games on live? I can totally live with playing backups offline and buying my online games.
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no one knows for sure, its all speculation at the moment, untill they find out what procedures m$ are using to ban people. you go on live at your own risk, its as simple as. there is no guarantee you will not be banned using just origional games on live. |
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« Reply #65 on: May 30, 2007, 01:47:41 PM » |
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I was using an Xbox360 that I got on launch in the UK, it was sent of to MS for repair 12 months ago, I only recently modded it with Extreme 5.2. I played only stealth backups recently. (Toshiba Samsung drive ms25)
The only other dodgy thing I did was use a dodgy Crackdown save from gamesaves.com to unlock 900 points (I'm only including this for information pls don't flame me!).
As soon as I heard about the bannings I laid low on XBox live until this weekend. When I tried to connect to update the dashboard it wouldn't even let me connect! I got the error status code. I'm just about to update the dashboard manually for what it's worth.
Everyone of my friends on live who has modded consoles and plays backups online are NOT banned! I'm the only one.
Pretty dischuffed that I got caught when plenty of people didn't. Will wait for 1 month after the next firmware upgrade is proved to be working before selling my banned console and getting a new premodded one.
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« Reply #66 on: May 30, 2007, 05:15:47 PM » |
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A question: i have a hitachi flashed with the newest maximus firmware and am a little confused.
my backups are fully stealthed according to xbc. does that mean im safe to play online? the reason i ask is because the first post says hitachi's cannot be stealthed.
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« Reply #67 on: May 30, 2007, 05:18:40 PM » |
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A question: i have a hitachi flashed with the newest maximus firmware and am a little confused.
my backups are fully stealthed according to xbc. does that mean im safe to play online? the reason i ask is because the first post says hitachi's cannot be stealthed.
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« Reply #68 on: June 14, 2007, 03:42:56 PM » |
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I have a 360 with a samsung drive and firmware 5.2b, i've been only connected to live for a few seconds, which was only 2 days ago (june 12 2007), that is when i connected my xbox online and tried to connect my xbox live , they asked me that i should download the newupdate, reading that i turned of the console because :
1) if i update my console with the 5.2b, will it brick and will the modded firmware still work?? (one member said that nothing will happen to my console but i need more confirmations)
2) if i do update my xbox live and start suring the marketplace for demo downloads ans stuff, will i still get banned knowing that i have never played online, be it original or back up, in fact the console has never been connected except for those few seconds i talked about... so what is probabily of getting banned for using the marketplace and for playing backup online ?
can somebody here please answer me.
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« Reply #69 on: June 15, 2007, 04:40:38 AM » |
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I have a 360 with a samsung drive and firmware 5.2b, i've been only connected to live for a few seconds, which was only 2 days ago (june 12 2007), that is when i connected my xbox online and tried to connect my xbox live , they asked me that i should download the newupdate, reading that i turned of the console because :
1) if i update my console with the 5.2b, will it brick and will the modded firmware still work?? (one member said that nothing will happen to my console but i need more confirmations)
2) if i do update my xbox live and start suring the marketplace for demo downloads ans stuff, will i still get banned knowing that i have never played online, be it original or back up, in fact the console has never been connected except for those few seconds i talked about... so what is probabily of getting banned for using the marketplace and for playing backup online ?
can somebody here please answer me.
I know people with 5.2b who are still going on live ok... so you *could* be ok. No one can say for sure. As for getting banned, it depends on whether your backups are stealth or not. You're better upgrading to ixtreme 1.2 to minimise the risk and always use stealth when creating your backups and verify using XBC or Mulleter. If you've ever played non-stealth backups online on your console then you'll probably get banned, if you haven't then you're probably ok. Always a risk however. |
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« Reply #70 on: June 15, 2007, 07:52:13 AM » |
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I had no problems playing on live with Xtreme 5.3, but I knew all my backups where stealthed correctly also.
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« Reply #71 on: June 15, 2007, 08:26:45 AM » |
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thanks for your answer, so i used mullter as you suggested to check out my gears of war copy , i chose view iso details , then i loaded the iso from the DVDr , after clicking on next i saw extrem compatibility, all boxes were checked but i see no mention of the word "stealth" , but i repeat all the five boxes or so were checked, does that mean that gears of wars is correctly build with stealth option ?
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« Reply #72 on: June 15, 2007, 08:44:55 AM » |
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If booting properly stealthed backups, Xtreme 5.3 will work fine with all currently known implemented backup checks.
iXtreme 1.2 has the additional protection of preventing booting of backups with extended stealth correctness checks as well as some additional challenge response timing routines.
It is believed that none of the timing routines are being used currently which is why xtreme 5.3 is safe (with properly stealthed backups).
But you have to ask yourself. If you have an unbanned console, why use xtreme 5.3 when 1.2 exists? It seems silly to me. iXtreme1.2 adds further protection of not booting up games that it doesn't consider validly stealthed (even tho iso testing may say so). Why take the risk of continuing to use 5.3? Laziness? Let's hope it doesn't cost you.
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« Reply #73 on: June 15, 2007, 08:58:06 AM » |
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This is an interesting thread but I have a Hitachi 59DJ and I am still not banned so the theory that only Samsung drives are avoiding the hammer is moot. Infact I am now the only person, I know at least, with a Hitachi drive to not be given the boot from live. I haven't flashed back to stock either. It's very peculiar.
Just itching for C4E and GaryOPA's hitachi fw to make sure I'm safe permanently.
**Edit. I was playing backups for a day or so into the bannings aswell but I must add that since then I only ever played original games. It certainly lends credence to the theory they detect the copied discs BUT...if it was about timings surely the response would be as fast with an original as with a backup.
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« Reply #74 on: June 15, 2007, 09:26:44 AM » |
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Calvin940, it is clearly mentioned that my firmware is 5.2B NOT 5.3 and as you clearly see i'm a super noob in the 360 domain, i just got the console like 5 days ago, so opening my 360 and flashing and i still don't know what the hell does my firmware 5.2b in the first place is a very very bad idea. i'm learning really fast around here though . is it easy to flash your 360? i did read some tutorials but it seems complicated, some technical words and names confused me... i have flashed myself my psp and i'm not a noob in the pc world, in fact i have a good knowledge about pc components and what have you but still flashing my 360 scares me...
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« Reply #75 on: June 15, 2007, 09:42:31 AM » |
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Calvin940, it is clearly mentioned that my firmware is 5.2B NOT 5.3 and as you clearly see i'm a super noob in the 360 domain, i just got the console like 5 days ago, so opening my 360 and flashing and i still don't know what the hell does my firmware 5.2b in the first place is a very very bad idea. i'm learning really fast around here though . is it easy to flash your 360? i did read some tutorials but it seems complicated, some technical words and names confused me... i have flashed myself my psp and i'm not a noob in the pc world, in fact i have a good knowledge about pc components and what have you but still flashing my 360 scares me...
I am not slamming you. I was making a general statement addressing a bunch of posts here and elsewhere about question with using 1.2 when 5.3 is working fine. I just posed the question wondering why people stick with 5.3 when 1.2 is out. I mean I think it just adds more risk (especially since the c/r timing fixes are not n 5.3 but were implemented 1.0+. And who knows how MS could activate those checks. Anyway, just a general statement. Opening the 360 gets easier everytime you do it. Flashing your samsung fw is pretty easy for anyone experience in PC hardware removal and simple commandline program execution. The key is to have a properly compatible SATA card and an ability to follow well detailed directions. I always take my paranoia one step further. I have my PC connected to a UPS (I use the connectivity kit so both my PC and 360 DVD drive are UPS'd) in case of a brown/blackout during flashing. I'd hate for a small $#!tty thing like that to ruin my drive. Outside of that, it's virtually impossible to toast your drive. Cal |
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« Reply #76 on: June 16, 2007, 11:20:54 PM » |
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This is an interesting thread but I have a Hitachi 59DJ and I am still not banned so the theory that only Samsung drives are avoiding the hammer is moot. Infact I am now the only person, I know at least, with a Hitachi drive to not be given the boot from live. I haven't flashed back to stock either. It's very peculiar.
Just itching for C4E and GaryOPA's hitachi fw to make sure I'm safe permanently.
**Edit. I was playing backups for a day or so into the bannings aswell but I must add that since then I only ever played original games. It certainly lends credence to the theory they detect the copied discs BUT...if it was about timings surely the response would be as fast with an original as with a backup.
Well, that would make two then.. I also have a Hitachi 59 drive that wasn't banned from Live. I haven't reflashed back to stock yet either, only games I play offline atm are stealth patched that I checked are compatible with iXtreme 1.0 standards via DVDMulleter8. Every so often I would connect to live w/ no disc in the DVD drive so that I can update my gamerscore with new achievements I unlocked while playing offline. So far so good, not banned yet. |
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« Reply #77 on: June 17, 2007, 11:24:56 AM » |
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Just my 2 cents, but I believe from reading lots of posts on the subject that if you are using properly stealthed backups on 5.2 or higher you are good for today. Microsoft was able to pick up lots of easy bans from people using scene releases and not paying attention the "stealth" of their backup even though they were running a "stealth" fw. Not using Xtreme 1.2 when it is out there is like not using a condom because a girl you don't really know says she is on the pill. Probably ok at this moment but something bad could still happen  |
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« Reply #78 on: June 18, 2007, 04:10:06 AM » |
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Still, not banned with Hitachi.
But what is kind of interesting is that I got hold of mulleter and checked the ISO's that I ripped, none of them have a valid SS because I ripped from Hitachi, I guess this means my backups weren't stealthed properly?? (I did inject DMI + PFI not sure if they were right)
Weird.
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« Reply #79 on: June 18, 2007, 08:09:04 AM » |
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Me too still not banned with Hitachi 47DJ Xtrene 1.0 only firmware upgraded once. And playing online almost every day. Games played after ban hammer started
Pirates World Ends
Forza 2
Earth Defence Force
Crackdown
Shadowrun
Boom Boom Rocket
NBA Live 05
NBA Home Court
Downloaded alot of demos and trailers
Using wireless network with D-Link Router
What i can see the NBA live was a backup missing all kinds of patches.
My XBox is a Premium bought as one of the first after release
Firmware upgraded with power from Xbox and PCI-SATA using linux to get Mode-B
one thing i notic was from the start after my drive was firmware upgraded some of my backups didnt start and i had to pull out my harddisk to make the boot detection last for longer so it could detect the SS sector. but now i dont have that problem anymore all my backups starts fast and boot from dashboard that wasnt possible before.
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15000 Gamerscore
Gold Member for 1 Year
bought 5 XBLA games
Live in Denamrk
dont know i my info is for any use. but i just thought i would post as much info as possible
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