Cracked Samsung SDG-605B/616T/616F Firmware for Xbox 1 - V2

[uberfry]

how the hell are you going to cheat on xbl?

1) the game won't work if the xbe is modified
2) you need your _own_ SS to make a working copy
3) and how will they update it? if they'd update it, they'd update every other sd605 or even thomson/philips aswell, which would be really pointless

hmm, this being a technical forum and all, i will reply and not be quite as nasty toward you...
 1) .map files can be resigned (halo 2) with extensive mods and maintain their original signature
 2) better do a bit more reading
 3) they wont update your drive, they will simply ban you , which is the original question that was asked

 if you live in the jaded world where you believe that microsoft cannot poll the dvd drive and see specific bytes in specific sectors, i must say you are severely mistaken... however, once the check that microsoft uses is identified, it could be defeated.

to:
1) so? they are called halo mods, and won't help in cheating (xbe can't be modified...signature will be broken if it is)
2) i agree you can download a "pirated" version from the internet and get the SS from a friend - but who the hell will give you his SS? seriously...
3) inquiry response can be changed

[pablot]

how the hell are you going to cheat on xbl?

1) the game won't work if the xbe is modified
2) you need your _own_ SS to make a working copy
3) and how will they update it? if they'd update it, they'd update every other sd605 or even thomson/philips aswell, which would be really pointless

hmm, this being a technical forum and all, i will reply and not be quite as nasty toward you...
 1) .map files can be resigned (halo 2) with extensive mods and maintain their original signature
 2) better do a bit more reading
 3) they wont update your drive, they will simply ban you , which is the original question that was asked

 if you live in the jaded world where you believe that microsoft cannot poll the dvd drive and see specific bytes in specific sectors, i must say you are severely mistaken... however, once the check that microsoft uses is identified, it could be defeated.

to:
1) so? they are called halo mods, and won't help in cheating (xbe can't be modified...signature will be broken if it is)
2) i agree you can download a "pirated" version from the internet and get the SS from a friend - but who the hell will give you his SS? seriously...
3) inquiry response can be changed

1) so, you are saying that changeing the properties in eg PGR2 that gives the car higher top speed isn't cheating? That file is just a simple ini file..
3) the current hacked version is real easy to detect, it doesn't even try to cover its tracks. Plus, it will be a cat and mouse game even if they start to spoof the responses. And the poor suckers that get caught by the latest live checks will get banned, do you think they will like you much then when you said that that wasn't an issue?

[uberfry]

has anyone thought of trying another dvd drive besides sd616/605 that uses the same chips?
if not, i might get some tomorrow and try...who knows

edit: you can change the top speed of a car in pgr2? nice to know

[MacDennis]

1) so? they are called halo mods, and won't help in cheating (xbe can't be modified...signature will be broken if it is)

Has already been answered. Altering data/config files will allow you to cheat.

2) i agree you can download a "pirated" version from the internet and get the SS from a friend - but who the hell will give you his SS? seriously...

Why not? There's nothing special about it, it's only unique for a particular game, not for each disc.

3) inquiry response can be changed

What's all the fuss about the inquiry response? The console doesn't even use it at the moment. There are numerous other ways to read/detect drive type and/or firmware version / status.

[Tiros]

What's all the fuss about the inquiry response? The console doesn't even use it at the moment. There are numerous other ways to read/detect drive type and/or firmware version / status.

Could you please list a few of them?

[wans]

Just to point this out, i did some tests regarding modified content on the disc.

I posted about it over an X-S as there was a bit of discussion about how the FW will ruin live.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=508400&st=150#

[dc_away]

Just to point this out, i did some tests regarding modified content on the disc.

I posted about it over an X-S as there was a bit of discussion about how the FW will ruin live.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=508400&st=150#

amen, and i hope microsoft starts banning by ip instead of by console!!

[Interloper]

mmhmm. im sure thats exactly what they'll do ..

[jurulz]

Just to point this out, i did some tests regarding modified content on the disc.

I posted about it over an X-S as there was a bit of discussion about how the FW will ruin live.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=508400&st=150#

amen, and i hope microsoft starts banning by ip instead of by console!!

WOW are u Joking!!! Banning IP is useless for anyone who knows a little bit of networking. Many high speed users has dynamic IP so it will be way 2 more easy to counter that.

[wans]

Just to point this out, i did some tests regarding modified content on the disc.

I posted about it over an X-S as there was a bit of discussion about how the FW will ruin live.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=508400&st=150#

amen, and i hope microsoft starts banning by ip instead of by console!!

WOW are u Joking!!! Banning IP is useless for anyone who knows a little bit of networking. Many high speed users has dynamic IP so it will be way 2 more easy to counter that.

Yip i know most ISP's here in the Uk offer dynamic IP's as standard, i believe with my provider, Eclipse you actually have to pay more for a static ip.

[wiggim]

I have been skimming though this thread, which looks like a bash of the hard work these hackers have devoted to the console.. but thats besides my point. Good work on all the contributions of everyone who codes, tests and posts results.

My question though - does this firmware work alongside a modchip install too? Just curious..

As for the way MS will fight this - it won't happen, they will just push the 360. Look at it this way, theres 4 different types of drives for the console, only a handful of all consoles out there have the samsung drives, plus people are paying for XBL service anyway so MS is making profit from that, and theres no way you can cheat on live (yet) with this hack. It costs them a lot of money to impliment a block that will be countermeasured in a few hours or days. Considering all the folk who will be shelling out $60 to them to play on live a year - they are still making money off old technology even if they arn't selling the games.

There's no way MS could ban IPs because of dynamic/static IP leases - they would have more calls about people who signed online with their DSL and can't sign into live because they are banned when they really are not. Call centers cost too much to run for them to constantly fix dynamic IP range bans. They can ban console ID's like they have been doing if they detect you're using files that shouldn't be. I doubt you will see this happen until the 360 hack becomes more widespread and they find a way to shut both of them down, as the 360 would work on live with xbox and xbox360 titles.. Just my opinion though, they won't do anything dumb like attempt to update drives.. Maybe a dashboard release thats forced for live use that checksums the DVD firmware and gives an error if it don't check right so you can't boot your console at worst, then you just got to reflash the original firmware back and be on your way until a fix is found... brings back memories of other companies routines too This can be fixed on the xbox because of the ability to mod, but the 360 may be another story as everything is signed and can't be bypassed yet.

[dc_away]

i'll buy that, i myself have a dynamic ip. but change your mac address everytime your banned... modding would get expensive after about the tenth or so nic/xbox eeprom. 

 i hope microsoft doesent sit back and loose legitimiate live users if something isint done about what IS going to happen... if you have to play aginst cheaters, get kai or xbc. theres thousands of people who cheat on there... only reason i have live is because of that, but if nothing is done to prevent cheating, i'll go back to xbc, and stop paying mirosoft to play...

 wow, maybe this should be in a seperate topic...


 anyway time will tell if firmware will get banned.

[Interloper]

if this was its own topic now would be a good time to close it

[cracko]

will the thomson drive ever have a firmware hack available?

[BlueCop]

cracko: no never.

[Rooney]

Can you chang the content in halo 2 using wxRipper?

[cracko]

blue cop are you being sarcastic?

[BlueCop]

blue cop are you being sarcastic?

well you ask people to predict the future and then think they're sarcastic when they answer you? as far as i am aware the thomson firmware has never been extracted. i have looked at the thomson board and don't seen any flash rom. so i currently don't see how it would be possible.

even if it did have a firmware chip there is no way to software flash it that i know of.

so to simplify i just said no never and i think that will be accurate. if you ask questions that require predicting the future don't complain if you get bad answers.

[cracko]

Thank you for that answer. I do not want anyone to predict the future just thought it was a sarcastic post telling me i am an idiot. I found your second post alot more helpfull then your first response

[sababa]

don't know if this is the right place to post this so don't flame me without trying to answer my question first thanks

done a lot of research, and read several help forums concerning the dvd fw hack for the original xbox

I opened up my xbox and I have a samsung/toshiba sdg-605F with a fw of x240
the latter about the fw i found out from attempting to flash it with mtkflash.exe

I created a boot disk with mtkflash.exe on it
i did the hotswap technique of powering on the xbox with the ide cable connected to it as normal, then plugging it in to my pc while it was powered off, then powering on my pc and leaving the xbox powered on

I TRIED TO BACKUP THE ORIGINAL FW FROM MY DVD DRIVE HERE----
typed command: a:/mtkflash 4 r /m ORIG.BIN
also tried mtkflash c         to search for connected devices
also tried mtkflash 4 r /m sdg605f.bin

all these attempts said that the device failed to initialize and that i need to reboot computer

---anyone know how to backup the original fw from the samsung drive?? what it is called? in the 360 its called orig.bin, don't know about the xbox 1 though

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SO I DECIDED TO SCREW BACKING UP MY FW AND JUST WENT AHEAD TO FLASH IT WITH MTKFLASH IN WINDOWS INSTEAD OF DOS
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so i'm in windows xp now
i run the mtkflash.exe program
i launch atapi mode
it queries devices and finds samsung sdg-605F(4)
i browse for fw file and select sdg605b.bin
i attempt to flash it, and it says it also failed to initialize and that i need to reboot computer


i have an emachines pc w/ an intel celeron ship (the cheap stuff)
my xbox drive is samsung sdg-605F, and xbox is running the latest xbox version (1.6 i think)

why does it fail to initialize? am I doing the hotswap thing wrong?
or does this not work with sdg-605F, as everyone seems to be talking about sdg-605B
in the wiki it says the F does also work with this hack......................