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Strogg
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« on: January 18, 2007, 11:50:45 PM »

Dear Community
I am not a programmer or skilled in those things.
I hate people calling loud " ia hacked this  stuff.... more infos will will be released soon"
Are they here to infiltrate the scene and slower down the development of some real breaktrough?!?
I dont know.
My idea is to write a assembler brute forcer for the xbox360. robinsod said he is able to manipulate data

(Hynix). what about to NOP every bit to bit and then the other.... what about changing 74=75 and so on?!?

This brute forcer process has to be automatically search for holes.

This way is always explained in the beginner / crackme tutorials- i know of pepack and others but maybe here
is a possibility to earn Data or whatever.

Will some sort of timing change we can use to see how the hyperisor will react on such inserted bit change?.

Sorry for my ugly english...

What are the goals to do so? I think its better then brute forcing the private key from microschrot or is this pointless?

Some time ago 4 years i read there is a 1 bit hack in the xbox1 bios... but dont know for sure.

And how to prove it when here is a hole execute unsigned code...

original sequenze
43 46 0B 34 00 00 00 00  00 00 03 60 00 00 44 C0

change to
90 46 0B 34 00 00 00 00  00 00 03 60 00 00 44 C0

then will be
43 90 0B 34 00 00 00 00  00 00 03 60 00 00 44 C0

and so on...
43 46 90

or simply change 74 to 75 or in the other way around...

i hope you understand.

Thanks for you time or crazy idea?!?
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2007, 12:21:03 AM »

what you are talking about would take a couple of hundred years to complete.
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2007, 12:32:39 AM »

i you know so... Its only an idea for flasher´s work during the people sleep!
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2007, 04:44:29 PM »

How about a multiuser-bruteforcing, like Seti@Home ? I mean, maybe someone is lucky and hits the signature algo?

Huh
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2007, 05:06:15 PM »

How about a multiuser-bruteforcing, like Seti@Home ? I mean, maybe someone is lucky and hits the signature algo?

Huh

The chance on happening that is like winning the lottery 3 times in a row Grin
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2007, 12:30:06 AM »

@Lilaq: that has been tried on xbox 1. nothing ever happened, and that signature only had 1024 bits, the 360 has double that.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2007, 01:09:12 PM »

someone should sneak into the DOJ and try it there Smiley
apparently they have 1000s of fpgas just for cracking keys
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2007, 07:46:28 PM »

who was the person that invented this encoding, the specific person that invented this would know for shure, ie... bugs etc
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2007, 01:42:31 PM »

who was the person that invented this encoding, the specific person that invented this would know for shure, ie... bugs etc

Yes, and I'm sure some highly paid Microsoft employee is just going to come out here and tell us all about it.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2007, 02:10:28 PM »

who was the person that invented this encoding, the specific person that invented this would know for shure, ie... bugs etc

Yes, and I'm sure some highly paid Microsoft employee is just going to come out here and tell us all about it.

I think he means the people who invented the rsa encryption.
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2007, 02:12:13 PM »

what you are talking about would take a couple of hundred years to complete.


using a pc, but how about an fpga?
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2007, 02:22:09 PM »

bruteforcing is slow and no matter the method, a 2048 bit key will take many, many years.
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2007, 05:37:06 PM »

saw this a few days ago..http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/20/1936257 .  Chinese Prof Cracks SHA-1 Data Encryption Scheme
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2007, 05:46:55 PM »

Big deal

SHA-1 is not the same as the RSA 2048bit encryption
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2007, 06:22:09 AM »

LILA Q you dont understand

Some of you know PE Pack?
First you have a loader = encrypts the Data in the exe and so on....
You know that cracking tutorials?
There is described changing "Jump if equal" to "jump if no equal" or "NOP" this jumps.
In the Hynix is the Xbox 360 Bios that because i wrote there is a 1 bit hack for the xbox1.
If you know the loader is "maybe stored in 080000" you can try changing sequenzes of non encrypet data here. Maybe one have luck and hit the bit....

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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2007, 03:04:42 AM »

who was the person that invented this encoding, the specific person that invented this would know for shure, ie... bugs etc

Yes, and I'm sure some highly paid Microsoft employee is just going to come out here and tell us all about it.

I think he means the people who invented the rsa encryption.

exactly , see someone has a brain ! lmao @ QuiescentWonder
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