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Author Topic: help on a samsung xbox 360 drive  (Read 13149 times)
soulplane
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« on: April 13, 2006, 01:59:01 PM »

hi i was going to have a go at doing my sammy drive but when i opened it up all the chips was on the other side



so i fliped the bord over and im not to sure what to look for i think its the chip with all the glue around it



any help on this would be grate thanx
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2006, 02:16:01 PM »

Well, thats the flashrom if thats what you are looking for. There are plenty of posts with information regarding removing it, although I am not quite sure why you would want to at this point.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2006, 02:20:25 PM »

here is a tip from robinsod.
Tip: remove the epoxy with a hot iron, be very careful not to damage the tracks but do remove as much glue as possible from under the corners. Get the chips pins as clean as possible and run bead of solder along the pins on each side such that they are all 'bridged' together. Apply your iron to each side in turn until the solder holding the chip in place melts, there isn't a lot of glue under the chip and when it gets hot enough it  lets go. After a minute or so the chip will simply fall off - no damaged tracks and with a little cleaning up the flash is reusable. I recommend you get some good solder wick or braid. Now the flash can be mounted on the back of the drive in a socket - see Darkfly's pictures of his excellent setup in the original thread, thats what we're aiming for (if you do damage a track there's also a picture of the PCB with the tracks, and handy vias, with the signals labelled). This is still a bad idea if you're not 100% sure what you're doing and/or would be unhappy selling your 360 as "faulty" on Ebay Smiley

I used my 25watt iron with a standard tip to try to remove the epoxy from my flash and did remove most of it except from the bottom of the chip around the pins. I ended up lifting a tons of traces from the chip but was able to dump my flash so as to save my key. I got a replacement drive from the links provided on the thread here on the board. The TS-H943A i got from them didn't have epoxy/glue on it. i used ChipQuik (Link http://www.emulation.com/catalog/off-the-shelf_solutions/lab&rework/chipquik.html) which is a low melting point solder that stays liquid for a while after heated to remove its flash. I then mounted a PLCC socket on the board and reflash my orginal bois. now i have a socketed working drive.

I hope i have been of help
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2006, 03:39:22 PM »

Grin thanx that  helped alot just one thing what do i flash the chip with do i need some sort of programer if so wich one do i need  im going to have ago at removeing this chip now
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2006, 04:09:54 PM »

i bought a $45 willem from sivava.com (link to one i bought http://www.sivava.com/Product_A04.htm). the core $45 package has a PLCC socket that can read/write the 39SF020A without problem.

I got several adapters with mine as well for various other projects that required them.

also they are located in thailand so it took about 10 days for it to arrive to me in the states.
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2006, 04:22:03 PM »

thanx for that m8 ill have to get one as i have just got all the epoxy glue from around the chip
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2006, 04:28:02 PM »

no problem. good luck with removing the chip. try not to damage the board. don't force it. i would try to bridging tip by robinsod i posted above
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2006, 06:09:06 PM »

well i got the chip off but one prob it lifted 2 traks so i dont know what to do now
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2006, 06:16:03 PM »

which 2 pads?

darkfly kindly provided a picture he links to in this post
http://www.xboxhacker.net/forums/index.php?topic=76.msg1864#msg1864
with alternate solder points for pins.

here is a direct link to the picture
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pinouts2mf.jpg

i extracted the pin out from the datasheet at http://www.sst.com/products.xhtml/parallel_flash/39/x8/SST39SF020A
hope this helps
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2006, 06:32:35 PM »

that helps alot thanks for that m8 i think it shoud still be ok
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2006, 06:59:48 PM »

i think i will just try to get a replacement drive like you did it sounds alod esayer where did you get yours from m8 thanx
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2006, 07:06:27 PM »

"place here that has both 360 drives for sale if any1 is interested:

Tosh sammy:
http://www.etech4sale.com/products/partinfo-id-153050.html

Hitachi Drives
http://www.etech4sale.com/products/partinfo-id-153049.html

You`d need to flash the firmware with your key ofcourse  Cheesy

Hope this helps some1"
                   
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Thread- http://www.xboxhacker.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=33&topic=585.0
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2006, 07:11:26 PM »

i had a sammy drive do i have to get a sammy drive agan thanx for your help
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2006, 10:16:28 PM »

no you don't have to get a samsung again. you will have to be able to read the contents of your flash out to get the key for your samsung though. you can then write this key into the firmware of the hitachi drive and it will work with your 360
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2006, 06:51:53 AM »

Grin thanx for that m8 and all your help ill buy the programar to read my key from here  http://www.sivava.com/Product_A04.htm do i need to download some sort of software to go with it or dos it come with it thanx
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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2006, 07:02:26 AM »

The programmer comes with a CD and all you need is on that CD. Meanwhile I suggest you to read the big thread and start with xbox1 before you mess with your 360...
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2006, 08:36:49 AM »

i dont know what you mean start with xbox 1 do you mean the dvd drive on the xbox 1 coz i have cipped about 12 xbox 1s and softmoded about 5 with no prob atall where is this big thread m8 thanx
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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2006, 09:24:05 AM »

i dont know what you mean start with xbox 1 do you mean the dvd drive on the xbox 1 coz i have cipped about 12 xbox 1s and softmoded about 5 with no prob atall where is this big thread m8 thanx

Yes I mean start by modding the xbox1 DVD FW... btw I have modded more than 1000 xbox and that didn't help in anyway... here is the big thread http://www.xboxhacker.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=33&topic=76.0
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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2006, 10:20:59 AM »

i dont know what you mean start with xbox 1 do you mean the dvd drive on the xbox 1 coz i have cipped about 12 xbox 1s and softmoded about 5 with no prob atall where is this big thread m8 thanx

Yes I mean start by modding the xbox1 DVD FW... btw I have modded more than 1000 xbox and that didn't help in anyway... here is the big thread http://www.xboxhacker.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=33&topic=76.0


thanx for that m8 ill have a good read
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2006, 07:51:56 PM »

ok when i get my new drive and programmer and get my key off my chip and put it to the new drive im back to square one it will just play original copies what i was trying to achieve just like everybody els is to get it to play a backup copys what would i need to do play around with my key to try and get it to play backups but oviously keep the original key in a safe place just incase it dont work thanx
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