problem using the sh-d162c drive with a via vt6421 pci card

[moontan]

Im after getting a new dell pc and it has no ide connections, so in order to get my pioneer 111d and samung sh-d162c drives recognised by windows, I had to get a vt6421 pci card with an ide connection. Both drives are connected to the one connection on the pci card and after installing the via drivers/sw,they show up fine in windows. However when i try to use any of the 360 backup programs, the samsung drive doesnt seem to be recognised as it doesnt seem to respond to the 'Get Feature List' command. I messed about with master,slave etc (dont seem to be able to mess about with dma/pio) but made no difference - currently the samsung drive is master, pioneer slave. I have kreon's .80 fw on the sammy drive but i cant update it to .81 with this pc as it says the fw is not compatible with the drive using the flasher program. The drive itself works fine in an external case and backs up games fine, but just wanted to have both drives in the one pc. If anyone knows what could fix this, it would be great!

[BurnOmatic]

yes i found this out aswell, i let kreon know about the incompatability with being able to flash either sh-d162c or shd163a , using the        ViA vt6421 pci card, for me triying to flash the drives with this card would lead to my pc rebooting itself, at first i thought it was the drive itself, but it was not, the problem was the vt6421 sata card, so what i did was go and buy a new card a sil 3512 comp usa generic card ., and after that i was able to flash the sh-d162c or shd163a just fine , so yes i have two cards , so in short the vt6421 card is not compatible for flashing these drives, wierd i know but thats the facts !

[moontan]

thanks for the info, does your new card let you backup games with redline99's backup creator? im in europe so i'll have to google/ebay around for that particular card.

[QuiescentWonder]

I've been using one of those cheap USB to IDE/SATA adapters and it works fine, if you were looking for a cheap alternative. I don't remember exactly which one I got (don't know if it really makes a difference) but it was only $20 and it came with a power adapter too.

This is actually exactly what I have (R-Driver III): http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0383

You can find tons of cheaper ones too (not the R-Driver III): http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=usb+ide&btnG=Search&lmode=online&scoring=p

[sadalius]

Yes, I can vouch for an IDE to USB adapter working as well. Like stated in the above post, if you get one, just make sure to get one with a power adapter.

[moontan]

thanks for the replies, i actually have a usb to ide/sata cable that i got to flash my hitachi drive. What i want to do though is keep the drive inside the pc, i already have an external case that i used to backup my games with my laptop. But it would be handier to just have it in my pc. I cant find the box for my usb to ide cable but dont remember getting any cd with drivers. Anyways i connected the drive to one of the back pc ports but though it recognises it as it as a usb device, it doesnt know its the samsung dvd drive and asks for drivers which i dont have. Its being powered by an ide power cable inside the pc and not an external power adaptor, could that cause this problem?

[moontan]

ok the drive is recognised using an external power supply, before this the pc i have only has one ide power cable, so i got a splitter, and split the power into the pioneer and samsung drives. They showed up fine in windows but when i used usb to ide with the samsung drive and kept the same power ( the splitter) it wasnt recognised. Im gonna try and just have the splitter powering the samsung drive and not the pioneer and see if it makes a difference.

[moontan]

using the only ide power cable that dell bothered to include! .......... it still isnt recognised properly. So it only works properly with the external power adaptor. Is it not using the ide power cable at all?