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« Reply #320 on: March 26, 2006, 05:01:11 PM » |
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The answer to your question is in the block of text you quoted.
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« Reply #321 on: March 26, 2006, 06:23:45 PM » |
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[...]but that where the signing comes in, you'd have to modify the game and that would break the signature, even i you'd set the media flag to allow the game to be run from any media, it wouldn't work because the signature isn't correct anymore ... so THEN you'd have to sign the game (or rather the .xex) again, and that's something _only_ microsoft can do - period.
You obviusly dont know what ur talking about, the games are all signed. The "protection" is in the security sector. And you can't resign a game EVER maybe if a miracle happens and someone gets the private key. if you would have read my whole post you would have noticed that i indeed say that the games executables are signed, just not the DVD itself, aaand that only MS can sign a executable. "You obviusly (sic) dont know what ur reading about..." |
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« Reply #322 on: March 27, 2006, 02:15:53 AM » |
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An how exactly do you sign the dvd?
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« Reply #323 on: March 27, 2006, 02:26:12 AM » |
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An how exactly do you sign the dvd?
The game executable (default.xex) is signed. The dvd is not. But a part of the security sector is encrypted. Before you ask, no we can not sign games. No we can not encrypt/decrypt that part of the security sector. |
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« Reply #324 on: March 27, 2006, 05:26:07 AM » |
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An how exactly do you sign the dvd?
The game executable (default.xex) is signed. The dvd is not. But a part of the security sector is encrypted. Before you ask, no we can not sign games. No we can not encrypt/decrypt that part of the security sector. I allready know this.. my question was for chaos |
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« Reply #325 on: March 27, 2006, 10:27:59 AM » |
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Just a quick question. Is it going to be next to impossible to crack my firmware without any hardware tools (LA/Romulator/Scope)? I wish I had such tools cuz they would be useful on my other projects, but I'm a poor college student and I spent all my money on the 360  lol. I'm just wondering if it's worth trying without the proper hardware tools. Also, is the romulator the only way to test the firmware before flashing it back to the drive? say for instance, I flash an edited firmware to the drive and it's bad, is the drive irrecoverable? sort of a one-shot deal? I'm assuming it's going to be next to impossible to find the time values to hardcode without an LA. Any input is appreciated. |
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« Reply #326 on: March 27, 2006, 12:45:38 PM » |
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An how exactly do you sign the dvd?
The game executable (default.xex) is signed. The dvd is not. But a part of the security sector is encrypted. Before you ask, no we can not sign games. No we can not encrypt/decrypt that part of the security sector. I allready know this.. my question was for chaos dude, seriously: READ! again: ...the games executables are signed, just not the DVD itself, aaand ...
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« Reply #327 on: March 27, 2006, 02:28:24 PM » |
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Just a quick question. Is it going to be next to impossible to crack my firmware without any hardware tools (LA/Romulator/Scope)? I wish I had such tools cuz they would be useful on my other projects, but I'm a poor college student and I spent all my money on the 360 lol. I'm just wondering if it's worth trying without the proper hardware tools. Also, is the romulator the only way to test the firmware before flashing it back to the drive? say for instance, I flash an edited firmware to the drive and it's bad, is the drive irrecoverable? sort of a one-shot deal? I'm assuming it's going to be next to impossible to find the time values to hardcode without an LA. Any input is appreciated. You don't need those fancy hardware tools to hack the firmware. They certainly can help and save time but are not required. IDA and a flash programmer can be sufficient. But if you don't have the skills and/or hardware to remove/read/reflash/solder the flash chip then wait for a software flasher because you will break your console otherwise. |
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« Reply #328 on: March 27, 2006, 02:45:27 PM » |
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@MacDennis: Thanks! that's great news! I'm definately not confident soldering the chip back to the board, but the reason I'm asking all this is that I think I found a software flashing solution, but no one seemed interested, so i thought I'd try it myself, mainly I was wondering, if I can actually use the flasher I found on samsungs website like I think i can to flash a modified bin to the drive, is there a possibility that I could hose the drive if all is not perfect in the firmware code? Would I be able to flash>test>flash>test the drive as much as needed, or would I possibly not be able to flash to the drive that way if something goes wrong? just curious. I'm am a CS student and am fairly confident about the coding, but that doesn't mean I couldn't still screw something up  oh yeah, and ATM is it possible to dump the samsung firmware/key using like plscsi or something of the sort, or would I definately need the programmer (can't seem to find much about the t/s drive)? |
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« Reply #329 on: March 27, 2006, 04:38:49 PM » |
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@MacDennis: Thanks! that's great news! I'm definately not confident soldering the chip back to the board, but the reason I'm asking all this is that I think I found a software flashing solution, but no one seemed interested,
Maybe because it's probably not compatible with the 3120L drive? Who wants to risk this without the ability to dump/flash their firmware first? so i thought I'd try it myself, mainly I was wondering, if I can actually use the flasher I found on samsungs website like I think i can to flash a modified bin to the drive, is there a possibility that I could hose the drive if all is not perfect in the firmware code?
Without the ability the dump your key, any software flasher is useless. So yes, you will probably brick your drive. If the flasher works in the first place .. Would I be able to flash>test>flash>test the drive as much as needed, or would I possibly not be able to flash to the drive that way if something goes wrong? just curious.
The LG has a recovery mode, I'm not sure if the TS has one. If it doesn't, well if you do something wrong then your drive is toast. Unless you dump your firmware first .. I'm am a CS student and am fairly confident about the coding, but that doesn't mean I couldn't still screw something up oh yeah, and ATM is it possible to dump the samsung firmware/key using like plscsi or something of the sort, or would I definately need the programmer (can't seem to find much about the t/s drive)? Simple answer, if you currently want to work on the firmware then yes, you will need a programmer first. It's in theory possible that this TS drive can't be software flashed at all .. |
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« Reply #330 on: March 28, 2006, 02:42:04 PM » |
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ok i got one more idea hehe just remamber idont know anything n it is just n a idea so dont get mad is there any way to make a fake xbox live on the pc make ur xbox think its the xbox live n DL games off?  |
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« Reply #331 on: March 28, 2006, 02:46:20 PM » |
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ok i got one more idea hehe just remamber idont know anything n it is just n a idea so dont get mad is there any way to make a fake xbox live on the pc make ur xbox think its the xbox live n DL games off? Not possible. The xbox live packets are propriatary and encrypted and cannot be spoofed. The downloads from the marketplace and such are done over http, but are still encrypted. |
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« Reply #332 on: March 28, 2006, 06:56:51 PM » |
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why wouls you want to do that anyways? all 360s come with a free silver subscription to dl demos/trailers/updates and such with, for free. If you're looking to play games online, last I heard, XBC and/or Xlink kai support 360. could be wrong about that one though...
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« Reply #333 on: March 28, 2006, 07:29:40 PM » |
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I wil alleen maar zeggen dat ik het supervet vind dat je nederlander bent good job mate  |
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« Reply #334 on: March 29, 2006, 02:08:19 PM » |
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ah, so the console does the comparing...
i thought the console would send the key to the drive, the drive compares the keys, then send an "OK" signal
Incorrect. Console AND drive have the same key. This key is used to encrypt communication between console and drive. If you change the the drive then this communication will fail because the console doesn't know that you changed the drive. Consone and drive both 'share' this secret key, used in communcation. just an idea if possible ? Would it be possible to remove the key locking the drive to the console, making it possible to be able to use the drive on any other console or is this part of the check performed on bootup and needed to run ?? cheers. Is it not possible to exchange harddisks from one xbox to another? that wouldn't make any sense to me, you can buy the harddisks separate so if you buy one you can use it in any xbox i guess. Or does it get locked once used in a xbox? |
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« Reply #335 on: March 29, 2006, 02:36:27 PM » |
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they're talking about the dvdrom, not the HDD.
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I do NOT give support by email, PM, ICQ or whatever. Anyone annoying me that way will have his balls removed. With a rusty butterknife. Slowly. And I'll enjoy doing it.
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« Reply #336 on: March 29, 2006, 02:37:37 PM » |
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Rana (and others): If you have an idea, make a new thread about it. Dont post it under another thread which has absolutely nothing to do with your question, just because it is a popular thread.
Perphide: this thread has nothing to do with the Hard Disk.
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« Reply #337 on: March 30, 2006, 12:58:21 PM » |
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I have a QUick Question for the Hackers DO XBOX 1 Game Backups also Boot under this Hack or even better yet do games that are not on the backwerd compatible List Boot WOuld like to sell my xbox1 if thats the case but then again I loose XBMC =D
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« Reply #338 on: March 30, 2006, 01:46:38 PM » |
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I have a QUick Question for the Hackers DO XBOX 1 Game Backups also Boot under this Hack or even better yet do games that are not on the backwerd compatible List Boot WOuld like to sell my xbox1 if thats the case but then again I loose XBMC =D
About the backwards compatibility they already said that they wont work because they have to be programmed to work, about the xbox 1 games i guess they work but you have to flash your drive for every game, it is not a matter of flashing and playing all the games you want. |
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« Reply #339 on: March 30, 2006, 03:16:08 PM » |
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TS: a new challenge...how about u hack the x360 to accept xbox1 backups?  would be nice to see |
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