360 FW hacked

[TheSpecialist]

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Try to insert a DVDR video and compare the laser activity and report your findings here, Sherlock

TS Why are you only responding to doubters??  There have been a ton of reasonable questions on this and other forums.

I think most questions are answered, if not => I'll try to skim through this thread tomorrow and answer any 'unanswered' questions that are left. I've also tried to answer all PM's, if I've forgotten someone, don't take it personal  and please remind me/send me again. Also, if you feel that some important questions are left unanswered, send me a PM about it.

[snakejoe]

Great Job TS. I just find a interview on XS.
http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEuklElZyFpcibJZvz.php

I have a question to the M$ patch you mentioned in the interview.
AFAIK, currently M$ only check the media flag report back by DVD firmware,
once M$ start checking the disc contents(structure?), this hack is useless for playing backup.
Is this the possible fix M$ can do? thanks.

[gusradio]

I totally beleive that you have accomplished this.

Congratulations and much Respect

I have 3 Questions for the Specialist.

1.  Now that you have done this what is your next move to progress your work?

2.  Since you are not publicly releasing your hack will you instead allow specific hackers or teams to continue and perfect your method?

3.  Do you feel that this will grant you greater access to the system firmware or bios so that you might develop a way to load unsigned software or even an Operating System.

Thank You

Your interview on the news section of X-S kind of answered Q#3.  I guess.

Thanks I apreciate your time and insight

[MacDennis]

I have a question to the M$ patch you mentioned in the interview.
AFAIK, currently M$ only check the media flag report back by DVD firmware,
once M$ start checking the disc contents(structure?), this hack is useless for playing backup.
Is this the possible fix M$ can do? thanks.

First, it's not a 'media flag'.
Second, the disc contents and structure match an original.
Third, it can and probably will be a cat and mouse game.

[burgemaster]

Team Executer wrote:

"From what we can tell so far is that the game image will have to be patched
too - We can smell a new feature for Qwix 2"

Could you give any more info about the imn the PGR disk in the video pls?
We know its a DVD+R DL, what about the format of the files?

[Etnad]

Details are in the HW section of this site. This is a site for hackers, so the details are targeted to that audience. There are no plans to make some kind of tutorial for n00bs. Intention of this site is to get an understanding of how the 360 is protected, not to enable n00bs playing backups.

Sorry, but I'm new to this forum. Where's the HW section?
Thank god you and your team are not supporting piracy. I sure hope, that no hackers will share the info about how it's done.

don't mind the spelling - I'm danish. 

[Divyx]

Well, team xecuter is assuring that it ( maybe the hack for all drives ) will be released.
Ofcourse it will. If i'd had the know how, i would release it too ( atleast complete tut for noobs about how to do it from scratch ). So basically what i'm saying is, it's a very thin hope that it wouldn't be released.

Soon enough, we will see much deeper hacks anyway so, i can't comment that i don't hope it's released since i want the possible chips ( or what ever way the mods will be done ) out there. Xecuter gives the impression in the news about this issue that they don't see markets for only backup ability mod. So then we have reason to believe theyre coming on with product that has more functionality than just that. I do recognize the unlikeness of full compromise hack but who in earth knows whats in store now.
Anyway, we'll see don't we? 

[MacDennis]

Could you give any more info about the imn the PGR disk in the video pls?
We know its a DVD+R DL, what about the format of the files?

The file format / structure is exactly the same as an original.

[snakejoe]

Second, the disc contents and structure match an original.

so what's the differs TheSpecialist said in the interview? thanks.

The current hack is also easy to patch for Microsoft because a backup differs on several points from the original and Microsoft could easily check for this.

[MacDennis]

so what's the differs TheSpecialist said in the interview? thanks.

Some data like the security sector has been relocated.

[snakejoe]

I got it. thank you MacDennis.

[maximilian0017]

Great work guys(and girls if present),

This is a great hack, if we can modify the game disks we can alter the data on it and we have a whole new area of attack, just think of the shader attack with the demo disk.

The chance of finding other avenues of attack are a lot bigger now.

[linked]

have i just heard right on another forum ??
you can flash say 3 drives with the same firmware and key from 1 already modified firmware and working modified drive???

[The M.A.R.T.]

have i just heard right on another forum ??
you can flash say 3 drives with the same firmware and key from 1 already modified firmware and working modified drive???

Be more specific, give sources and links otherwise it's talking like air biking

[linked]

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=498519&st=120
above is the post about flashing a drive with a different key .
hence i say if you could get you hands on a ready made firmware hacked, you would only have to flash to another drive and then your up and running .
are they correct with this idea?

true but you can extract the key from one drive and write it to another and it will work fine. This has been tested by people on the xbox hacker forum and posted about.
Sure it could both drives would just have the same key.

Or, like a modchip, you could have two or more "banks" on a larger size flash chip, and a switch so jump from the orig FW to hte hacked one.

[Arakon]

you can have an already hacked firmware, but you still have to edit your drive key into it, otherwise it won't work.

[linked]

you can have an already hacked firmware, but you still have to edit your drive key into it, otherwise it won't work.

i understand that bit.
but say if you had a firmware dump from the working 360 in the video and flashed it to another drive then the keys would be the same but the drives would both boot and wok fine.
ok might lose xbl as 2 consoles with same key is bad right ?

[MacDennis]

but say if you had a firmware dump from the working 360 in the video and flashed it to another drive then the keys would be the same but the drives would both boot and wok fine.

No, they do NOT boot and work fine with the same key. The information in that x-scene thread is false.

[linked]

but say if you had a firmware dump from the working 360 in the video and flashed it to another drive then the keys would be the same but the drives would both boot and wok fine.

No, they do NOT boot and work fine with the same key. The information in that x-scene thread is false.

oh well sounded good?
but thanks for clearing that up,
now back to trying to remove the poxy stuff on the chip dam stuff.

[Dzgx216]

Linked,

   IF you don't have experience with things like that, DON'T TRY TO REMOVE THAT CHIP.  I've already seen posts on other forums about broken traces and other such anomalies.  I'd urge you to wait.  This may be patched by MS before it's ever even leaked.  They have the abilitiy to access any site just as easily as you do and it's MORE than possible that they've already started working on patching this hack.  I just hope you haven't done any damage already.  Remember, by the time you see a Generic Hacked firmware, you're going to have a tool to flash it with. (most likely) At this time, there is NO software method for flashing the firmware.  Robinsod posted earlier that he's sure it's POSSIBLE but it's just not done yet.  Why would ANYONE make a public release of the hack without an ability to flash it!?  Relax and wait, *OR* practice removing and replacing chips on something old that you can afford to lose.  (i.e, old Mobo, or PCI soundcard or something.)  Get yourself some quality supplies, I.E. Good quality sucker, de-soldering braid, good fine tip/low watt iron.  This is a big undertaking if you've not done it before and you should practice your skills so that there is less possibility of permanent damage!!

Danzig