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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2006, 10:56:26 AM » |
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TS - does the Kiosk disk now work? just wondering how they blocked it?
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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2006, 11:09:33 AM » |
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Great work. Thanks for the respect. i don't think i deserve it though =P
are you guys working exclusively with the hitachi?
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2006, 11:12:00 AM » |
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Great work. Thanks for the respect. i don't think i deserve it though =P
are you guys working exclusively with the hitachi?
Like Robinsod stated, this was HL only but it has come to our ears that one other member of this board got it working for the sammy too. |
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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2006, 11:26:19 AM » |
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excellent work guys! just a quick question, now that backups are bootable can you confirm whether the garbage/dummy space (kept in Pi/Radian releases) is required? or do other releases (like Clear's) with dummy space stripped boot successfully? (purely for educational purposes of course  ) |
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2006, 11:31:31 AM » |
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Great workTS and the rest of the people who contributed id like to have contributed my self but im to scared ill damage my nice new 360 lol.As for not releasing the firmware im sure this will be leaked in no time at all.But rest assured every time i boot a backup on my 360 ill be thinking of you guys for making it possible. im sure all the people that doubted you with the xbox 1 firmware hack are laughing on the other side of their faces now. much respect to the specialist and the rest of the team for making the impossible possible. |
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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2006, 11:39:44 AM » |
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Congratulations gentlemen, looks like the hard work paid off! How difficult is it to make these 1:1 backups you refer to? Just thinking, was the backup you used done as per those that Ezekiel was looking to do with his custom hardware, or are they the kind of thing that I could create myself using a standard DVD-R drive with the factory shipped firmware? Just wondering how much work is going to be involved from say me getting home with my latest game to actually running it in a 360 modded using the kind of theory you guys have been using here..... Also, any chance someone could please make that video available elsewhere as Rapidshare doesn't work with my ISP - thanks in advance  Well done all involved - I can hear those pagers at MS going off now as they're calling a red team! |
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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2006, 11:47:05 AM » |
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Congratulations gentlemen, looks like the hard work paid off!
How difficult is it to make these 1:1 backups you refer to?
If we'd have succeeded in a 1:1 backup, we wouldn't need a hacked FW  The placeholders contain bad sectors that simply can't be written with a standard dvd burner. Furthermore, there's info in the CPR_MAI in FD021E that's being used, you can't write this either with a standard burner (or any of that specific sector, since it's in the lead-out). And last but not least, the control data from the lead-in is being used and again, can't be written with a standard burner. That's why the hacked FW uses hardcoded data instead. |
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« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2006, 11:51:33 AM » |
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TheSpecialist and others .. great job for your hard work.
I just got a question .. what about the "LIVE" with this hack ?
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« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2006, 11:54:12 AM » |
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Nice one, just realised that it was Arakon who mentioned that the copies must be 1:1! Sounds good, as a matter of interest, do you know if the XBox 1 that you hacked still works on Live? Just wondered if they had found a way to block it yet as I guess that's the thing most of us will be looking for - the ability to make backups of our own legally purchased software but still have that work on Live. I'm not that bothered about the unsigned code personally as although I would like to see something like XBMC for the 360, I don't like the idea that people could then hack about with the Live system which would be a pita. I'm guessing the MS response to this will be to get developers to put as much data as possible onto the disks so that it would make it harder to relocate the SS data - ie use every last byte they can checking out data integrity via CRC checks on padded files so that it makes the life harder for the person altering the disk to work on writable media. As a matter of interest is the security data that you're writing hardcoded to a certain LBA for now in the data region or is it out of the way of where the user data would be anyway, ie in the lead in / out for example? Thanks again |
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« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2006, 11:56:19 AM » |
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1:1 as in, no data modified (such as own/edited xex files etc).
also I believe the file structure has to remain intact as well.
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I do NOT give support by email, PM, ICQ or whatever. Anyone annoying me that way will have his balls removed. With a rusty butterknife. Slowly. And I'll enjoy doing it.
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robinsod
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« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2006, 12:01:15 PM » |
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Since its invisible to the console it would be invisble to Live. Another fine reason for not releasing it
The firmware I'm working on should not require the place holder data so 1:1 copies are not required. we cant make 1:1 as TS said so we would fail on the SS and on Type 5 & 7 responses. Keeping the place holder data would only allow us to defeat types 1-3 so why bother? Better to replace it with a simple look up table based on CID and put that somewhere writable but unused
Im not that bothered about playing games. Unsigned code is the goal here and it's really quite sad that this is the only hack we could come up with.
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« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2006, 12:01:34 PM » |
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I just got a question .. what about the "LIVE" with this hack ?
See Robinsod notes. |
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« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2006, 12:05:54 PM » |
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@TheSpecialist is this Hack only for hitachi?or for toshiba-samsung too?
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robinsod
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« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2006, 12:09:40 PM » |
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Read the thread, its only 2 pages so far
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« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2006, 12:14:39 PM » |
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I just got a question .. what about the "LIVE" with this hack ?
See Robinsod notes. Hehe, answered in the next reply by robinsod. thx So that was the same thing with xbox1 .... woaw ... |
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« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2006, 12:22:18 PM » |
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OK, here is another newb question.
If the box will only play signed code, then wont modifying the game data in order to cheat on LIVE be prevented?
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« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2006, 12:24:09 PM » |
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Hey good work for all you guys
but one question:
Will the firmware will be released or the code will be released for free60 guys??
Thanks
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« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2006, 12:28:20 PM » |
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Hey good work for all you guys
but one question:
Will the firmware will be released or the code will be released for free60 guys??
Thanks
the free60 project is a public project and they've anounced to not release it to the public, do the math. edit: oh and offcourse cheers guys....Good to know us dutchies are well represented in the hacking area |
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« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2006, 12:31:04 PM » |
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Hehe, thanks Krayzie Besides, the free60 guys are hackers, they'll understand the info in the HW section of this site |
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« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2006, 12:34:06 PM » |
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OK, here is another newb question.
If the box will only play signed code, then wont modifying the game data in order to cheat on LIVE be prevented?
I'm sure MS will do everything possible to detect and ban cheaters and they will succeed in doing so (checking data files). Cheating on live is probably the lamest thing you can do |
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