360 FW hacked

[Questioner]

That's a good question, the iso release of that game is some 7 GB, I don't see how it would fit on a single layer dvd without some ripping.

[Disabled]

First off, congratulations to TheSpecialist and everyone else involved.
I can really understand you not releasing this, but what I do not understand is why do you search for a generic mod, or a soft flash method for the drive? If you would fear the legal threads I could understand it, as someone else could release it, but you say youre not releasing because of piracy and then I don't understand the extra effort for further development. But then this is your concern and I don't really care.

Concerning the Isos floating around. They will not be bootable right away with that firmware (or they might with the one used in the video, but not with the improved version) as the (to be improved) firmware will read special sectors from a special section of the dvd that are not present in current rips. The Big Isos might contain the data though, but at the false positions, so at least a preprocessing has to take place.

[xDREAM]

For all ppl with their '360 in reflection theories' =>

http://rapidshare.de/files/15899907/360hackORG.mpeg.html

Best frame you can see what your supposedly 360 is, is the frame just before the screen goes red.

I think the best 'proof' of this video is in the laser movement. It's reading the responses from disc, from the outer area. Try to get your 360's laser to do the same movement when YOU insert a DVD-R. Also, listen to the sound of the disc spinning up and try to get your drive to do that when you insert a backup.

Yes, the video could still be fake, but with this original video, I am sure everybody agrees that if this is fake, then we'd need some very expensive high tech hardware to have done it

Yes you can clearly see that it is a metallic trashcan/ashtray.. anyway these hidden xbox claims are redicioulos you shouldnt even respond to them.
Whoever did that video should have did as they did with the first xbox in a billgates mask heh

[MacDennis]

As I can see: RITEK PRINTABLE DVD-R . anyone can confirm this ?

What makes you think it's a DVD-R?
It's a DVD+R DL disc actually.

[Arakon]

That's a good question, the iso release of that game is some 7 GB, I don't see how it would fit on a single layer dvd without some ripping.

"Total bytes used on this XBOX dvd: 3448526080"

3.44 GB of actual files on PGR3. all the 7 gig isos contain a ton of blank/trash data that gets created by using the swap to dump.

[XBOX360user]

As I can see: RITEK PRINTABLE DVD-R . anyone can confirm this ?

What makes you think it's a DVD-R?
It's a DVD+R DL disc actually.

Thanks for the answer,
But it is RITEK for sure,....
 I tought that XBOX360 reads only DVD-R DL,
cheers

[The M.A.R.T.]

That's a good question, the iso release of that game is some 7 GB, I don't see how it would fit on a single layer dvd without some ripping.

"Total bytes used on this XBOX dvd: 3448526080"

3.44 GB of actual files on PGR3. all the 7 gig isos contain a ton of blank/trash data that gets created by using the swap to dump.

One could know that with totally no hacker experience like me, because I saw all the game dumps for the last few weeks on the newsgroups and even when one is a dumb ass, he/she would notice that all the dumbs 'strangely' had the same amount of data. Would direct to the fact as written down here the answer I quoted by someone that does know how to hack

[MacDennis]

But it is RITEK for sure,....
I tought that XBOX360 reads only DVD-R DL,

It actually doesn't matter what brand of media is used. I don't know about the other drives but the LG as shown in the video has no problems with DVD+R DL media.

[Arakon]

That's a good question, the iso release of that game is some 7 GB, I don't see how it would fit on a single layer dvd without some ripping.

"Total bytes used on this XBOX dvd: 3448526080"

3.44 GB of actual files on PGR3. all the 7 gig isos contain a ton of blank/trash data that gets created by using the swap to dump.

actually, I have to correct myself after the dump finished, it's in fact larger than a single layer. it seems it choked on the layer breakpoint (which differs from the xbox 1 disks).

[burgemaster]

Arakon m8,

So that is a DVD+R Dual Layer, with just the game files on and only 3.4gigs worth on it in total?

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[ASTRAL]

For all ppl with their '360 in reflection theories' =>

http://rapidshare.de/files/15899907/360hackORG.mpeg.html

Best frame you can see what your supposedly 360 is, is the frame just before the screen goes red.

I think the best 'proof' of this video is in the laser movement. It's reading the responses from disc, from the outer area. Try to get your 360's laser to do the same movement when YOU insert a DVD-R. Also, listen to the sound of the disc spinning up and try to get your drive to do that when you insert a backup.

Yes, the video could still be fake, but with this original video, I am sure everybody agrees that if this is fake, then we'd need some very expensive high tech hardware to have done it

TheSpecialist,
Firstly, I am not trying to conspire against the FW hack, however I am somewhat sceptical due to the past fake 360 mods. I would have to agree the laser movment is your best proof. There is also one other thing I'd like to mention, I noticed on teamxecuters website there is a contradiction;  "We also agree with his position that he wishes not to release this hack into the wild. To read some of the posts made by the scene kiddies complaining about this need to get an education and stop whining like bitches. If it's that important to you do it yourself - the information on how-to is all on the xboxhacker.net forums."

"The scene can expect a hack for all drives very soon (It's currently only Hitachi) - you can be assured that it will be released although I don't think modchips will be any kind of business as its a pure piracy mod - no homebrew at all."

Are teamxecuter talking of your hack or one of their own?

[Arakon]

Arakon m8,

So that is a DVD+R Dual Layer, with just the game files on and only 3.4gigs worth on it in total?

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no, as I said, I was wrong, it's actually larger than one layer, so over 4.7 gig.

[The M.A.R.T.]

Arakon m8,

So that is a DVD+R Dual Layer, with just the game files on and only 3.4gigs worth on it in total?

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no, as I said, I was wrong, it's actually larger than one layer, so over 4.7 gig.

Not to say I am saying then something is false or not, because I believe the hack thing, but how is it possible then that there is a SL DVD with PGR3 running in the movie that has been released by The Specialist and the team? I don't understand that part then...

[TheSpecialist]

Not to say I am saying then something is false or not, because I believe the hack thing, but how is it possible then that there is a SL DVD with PGR3 running in the movie that has been released by The Specialist and the team? I don't understand that part then...

I theory, after ripping some parts out, we could have fitted it on a single layer disc, although this would be a lot of work. Besides, several mods would be needed in the current FW, that's used in the drive in the video, since it loads data from the placeholders, so these would have to be relocated too and we'd need to point the drive to these other locations (or use hardcoded responses for ALL response types and completely skip the placeholder reading part). Furthermore, the 360 uses the "dvd layer descriptor" (breakpoint etc) from the security sector, so this would have to be modded too.

Anyway, the DVD in the video is a dual layer. What makes you think it's a single layer ?

[The M.A.R.T.]

Not to say I am saying then something is false or not, because I believe the hack thing, but how is it possible then that there is a SL DVD with PGR3 running in the movie that has been released by The Specialist and the team? I don't understand that part then...

I theory, after ripping some parts out, we could have fitted it on a single layer disc, although this would be a lot of work. The DVD in the video is a dual layer. What makes you think it's a single layer ?

You see this fast untrue facts get into the open, I just read someone stated somewhere that it was a SL disc... I just watched the video after you posted the message above and nope, nothing to see about a SL DVD at all

So just see my first message as unposted, and hope the Toshiba/Samsung drive will work soon also with the hack through software FW upload through a PC!

[SOWA_PL]

Hehe very nice work.. and movie (nice room )

My question: backups from xbox1 work with this?

sorry for my english ;]

[TheSpecialist]

Hehe very nice work.. and movie (nice room )

My question: backups from xbox1 work with this?

sorry for my english ;]

I've heard already some weeks ago about someone who supposedly got the xbox 1 hack 'ported' to the 360. The FW in the video won't boot it, but it's even easier than the 360 disc, since no security placeholders are used at all and all responses are read from the security sector directly (well after the 'advanced' XOR decryption )

[cja100]

i dont know if this has been addressed but does the hacked fw boot original game discs too?

if not is there a way.

[TheSpecialist]

i dont know if this has been addressed but does the hacked fw boot original game discs too?

if not is there a way.

Yes. The drive of course knows the difference between an original and backup, so it's easy to put an 'if original THEN 'normal procedure' ELSE 'hacked procedure' in

[cja100]

how does it tell the difference media type? so i take it dvd-r video works to then?