360 FW hacked

[xDREAM]

TheSpecialist, who was it that recorded the video?

[Helltick]

I'm not asking for the file...I dont want it.
Just wondering if the above approach would be considered legal.
We are just repairing a dvd drive?

[chickenpie]

I'm not asking for the file...I dont want it.
Just wondering if the above approach would be considered legal.
We are just repairing a dvd drive?

lol at a chip that has never really caused problems before suddenly needing to be replaced in its 1000's....i know thats not what you mean...but it would be kinda strange...more to the point though since you dont want the firmware, who cares :p im sure if people want to make money from it they will find a loophole.

[blue45]

Hello, i understand that you guys do not want to use the firmware hack for piracy. I would suggest giving the hack to a specialiezed mod team with the money and the power to create a modchip like Xecuter. They are the kings of the modchip, and you guys just are going to create more and more software stuff, if you guys do not work together. I of course use a xecuter 3 chip in my xbox and that works great. I would love to see the xbox 360 hacked, but Robinsod and your friend Specialist need to team up and share the wealth of knowledge other ways then just the forums. Maybe you guys are already doing this, if you could just give me an estimate on when you and maybe the specialist think that the first mod for the system will be available, i am waiting to buy an xbox 360 soley on when you guys mod the 360 wether or not i use for piracy should be my decision but i believe in the modchip scene to be used. I would suggest putting the mod on the dvd drive now that you have the firmware hacked for the 360, it would make sense because i believe this is what was one of the game cube mods. Well That would be great if you could message me back on maybe an estimate of the retail date for the modchip. Hopefully you guys will endorse a great place like modchipman.com and xecuter, because those guys are great. Thanks for your time, i appreciate it!

[leonardo1958]

Great work guys !!!

And as usual you guys will be accused of faking it and al kind of other bull$#!t.

Strange that nobody was accusing bunnie of faking it, when he said that he cracked the xbox1.

What did these guys ( the complainers ) ever do for the xbox community ?

Best of luck,

(NL) Leonardo

[PS2MXBOX]

I'm not asking for the file...I dont want it.
Just wondering if the above approach would be considered legal.
We are just repairing a dvd drive?

No, not legal. It contains copywritten code

[robinsod]

No, not legal. It contains copywritten code

Sorry to question this but is it actually true? The stock firmware for both drives is hosted on this site. The stock code contains no copyright notices and the hack certainly doesnt

[p4m]

Now, I'm new here. I've been reading your forums for a few days now. I was really excited about this firmware hack, but honestly, I have no reason to believe it. The video looked false, and if you guys aren't going to release it because you feel it isn't necessary, I don't think anyone else should bother believing it. I understand why you wouldn't want to, but the video looked stitch, every poster on this forum just seems to be up in arms about HOW you did it rather than that it looks false.

Believe or not believe... what's the problem?
But please if you don't believe this hack is true please don't post in this forum anymore...
I don't want to spend all my day reading pages full of "I don't believe this is true"
Thanks

[PS2MXBOX]

No, not legal. It contains copywritten code

Sorry to question this but is it actually true? The stock firmware for both drives is hosted on this site. The stock code contains no copyright notices and the hack certainly doesnt

You don't understand. There is a thing often refered to as "implied copyright" which means basically if MS wanted to take you to court they could.  LG doesn't own the firmware, as MS has designed the disc and info and its reading of it.  They contract it to LG/TS to produce the 360's drive.  Now it would most likely stand up in court that you violated the copyright of the whole console.  I often wondered why you'd host the FW on this site, but I wasn't about to spoil the fun    Basically there doesn't have to be a copyright notice in the FW because there is a copyright for the technology/console in general that covers the whole console.

Edit: Typos and one more sentence

[MaX PL]

hey LIO,

I love how you live in an Eastern European country and write well in English.  its baffling as to why you cant manage a good salary with such intellect.

anyhow, if youre too poor then you shouldnt be playing games in the first place.

[Helltick]

You don't understand. There is a thing often refered to as "implied copyright" which means basically if MS wanted to take you to court they could.  LG doesn't own the firmware, as MS has designed the disc and info and its reading of it.  They contract it to LG/TS to produce the 360's drive.  Now it would most likely stand up in court that you violated the copyright of the whole console.  I often wondered why you'd host the FW on this site, but I wasn't about to spoil the fun  Wink  Basically there doesn't have to be a copyright notice in the FW because there is a copyright for the technology/console in general that covers the whole console.

Wow...thanks for that, really makes things clear.
No firmware!
However, a repair/replacement chip that c/w win32 flashing s/w for a "DIY dvd repair" should be cool...right?

[Sir Slater]

If you don't want to sit through pages of non-believers, that offsets the purpose of a forum. If everyone here says it's true and I think it isn't, I should have the right to say that. There is nothing about this video, this forum, the posters who have claimed to have the firmware hacked, or the people who post in favor of them. What reason is there to believe it? Hell, what reason is there to believe me? This is an Xbox 360 hacking board, if anything is to be done as far as Xbox 360 hacking goes, I see no reason to not release something more than a video that 1) is poorly thrown together and cuts out in the middle (IE stitched) and 2) the game that was used could have just had a white cover over it, it didn't even have the standard DVD-R backing. I'm not trying to be distruptful on this forum, but I feel that if this is a hoax at all, there should be someone to state that it might be. Congratulations if you did it.

[RaNa]

hey i want to if i do firmware hack update well it bannd from xbox live? also how is it going to be well i boot if from a cd n update?

[add]

the purpose of this forum is to discuss general xbox 360 hacking.  not to watch clueless, in the words of robinsod, 'mcnuggets' that are only here to prod a ready made firmware modification out of people.  if you want that, go wait until paradox, pi, or some other underground group does a full release and have a little respect for people whose critical thinking extends beyond following a/v cables in videos.  because honestly, you are just making yourself look like idiots.  on the brighter side, it's nice to see the 360 bring some of the old guys out of the woodwork 

[robinsod]

If you don't want to sit through pages of non-believers, that offsets the purpose of a forum..... I'm not trying to be distruptful on this forum, but I feel that if this is a hoax at all, there should be someone to state that it might be.

A good point and well made. It has to be said reading pages of backslapping and applause is easier on the eye though

The video doesn't show the back of the TV either and it's entirely possible there was another XBox round the back..... But there wasn't.

As SeventhSon said, if this is a fake it should be easy to prove. Look at the stock DVD firmware and compare it with the CR protocol post and the Sector Decryptor. Hot Swap a game disk and go look at the place holders and see if you can find the CR data in the sectors specified. Heres the CR data for both of the Type 1 response in PGR3 PAL:

CID     CD                  RD                   Sector Range
79   8D8AC269   EA9536DB   FCB930   FCC92F
16   CBD9E4E1   62B5B3F7    20F8F0    2108EF

Obviously this doen't help the non technical people but there ought to be enough capable bodies out there who can debunk this IF it is a fake

There are a lot of scammers out there it's true (can you say Ice Mod?) and a degree of scepticism is healthy BUT reasoned debate and the exchange of views and information is not the same as name calling. Im' happy to debate and discuss but I dont want to get into another flame war

[jse]

Hey guys great work,
i can fully understand you not releasing the ins and outs or this as piracy is never a good thing
but couldent you use your achivements to blackmail m$ into releasing a homebrew enviroment
like ps2's yabasic

whats the point in selling the hardware if home users cant develop for it, especially a piece of
hardware like 360

i think it could be a good idea to blackmail and make them choke due to their extotion of the masses
and that god damn blue screen of death that has pissed me off over the years

anyways good work guys

[lynzoid]

Guys.... first sorry for my english im russian...

in 'layman terms' this claims are 100% legit.
even a guy with basic course in asembler programing can tell you this all really basic.
it's only you have to be at least rather advanced user or better it pro to execute/perform hack.

i really pity ppl still claiming it's fake (2nd xbox are most lolful, you can clearly even see where 'the man' moved security sectors on that blank =))) - i've seen loooads of them today...

anyway again adressing all 'end users' - just wait till your nearest chip guy/whoever (i suspect it's gonna be someone like PDX or summat - they got unlimited balls and everlasting 'scene' hunt for credz) can offer you working solution.
i rekon with all data basically layed out here (althouth i still got some technical q's im sure ppl will help me out with) it'll take no more than like week to have 'scene toolz [not for zukerz]' like 'n00b ezy freeseek-s-t winxp uzer friendly flasher-r-uz from St0nEr kewl dewd' etc.

so please get a big one - it'll last you a week till summat maybe will happen (maybe not).
and stop flaming.
and dissing Eastern European ppl. We are Bratzi Slovaki - and we will cut your gas and steel =) and kill your goat with help of borat

bye

[chaos]

... There is nothing about this video, this forum, the posters who have claimed to have the firmware hacked, or the people who post in favor of them. What reason is there to believe it? Hell, what reason is there to believe me?

i love people who answer their own questions! there's no reason at all to believe you, because you don't even seem capable or reading some other thread where everything is layed out before - what, how, who. next time better read the stuff you're talking about before poppin' in and flamin' around.

btw, did you notice that right at the beginning the DVD-R is flipped over to counter _exactly_ the lame reason you are giving why it's fake? that's so lame you could encode mp3s with it...

[jse]

im not claiming the vid was fake but tbfh you cant see all the video cable its quite possible that another xbox 360 with a retail pg3 was running

but i doubt it xbox hacker is very respected

[fakeer]

  http://img95.imageshack.us/slideshow/player.php?id=img95%2F4127%2F1142739258cvq.smil

hmm woundering if you can explain this..