How I fixed the three red lights error 0102

[Ge1st]

I assume its ok, what tool did you use to resolder the resistor, the jewelers loupe? Where can I find this tool, and how much does it go for. Can you give me the specific brand too. Thank you bro.

[zillionare]

Ok, I have located about 20 of em on a dead laptop board. they are the same size as the ones in your picture...also compaired them to the pic you posted and to my board.

After removing 6 of these (smaller than a fleas balls) resistors. I closely inspected them and 3 are damaged 3 are good. I can't seem to locate my solder sucker as I need it now.

Putting them back on you will need a super steady hand. and there's the danger that you may cause other problems. your call there.

Since this is info only forum and you still want these you will have to pm me about this further.

peace
zil

[wildthing1984]

I have try the hotair trick on the gpu and everything works fine now.Dont hesitate it works fine

[zillionare]

I assume its ok, what tool did you use to resolder the resistor, the jewelers loupe? Where can I find this tool, and how much does it go for. Can you give me the specific brand too. Thank you bro.

A 40watt radioshack special to remove and also repair one of the resistors here. The jewelers loupe is optics for your eye...so you can see the tiny flea balls or gem stones, whichever.

You would prolly be better off using this http://cgi.ebay.com/TENSOR-22W-MAGNIFIER-BENCH-Lab-Desk-LIGHT-VGC_W0QQitemZ150046044125 . I used the loupe cause I'm not near the bench right now.

I''ll run a listing on fleabay for those resistors if you still need them....I'll post a link to them.

the smaller the tip the better your work could be.

peace
zil

[Ge1st]

Zillionare, thanks for helping, but on second thought I don't want to do the soldering anymore. I hear that soldering a resistor is very tricky, and if I screw up the whole motherboard will die. The three choices I have is I give it to someone professional on this forum like TeamModfreakz to resolder it, unfortunately he's way off in Germany, I give it to a store such as "The Source" or possibly sell it. Thanks for your help though.

[Weeb]

Isn't it standard that resistors are black and capacitors yellow/brown?

Oh and from the picture it seams that the parts ur missing are:
C4R58 and C4R53

now the "only" thing you need are instructions what values those to are
(maybe if you know someone that works in some repair shop might have schematics for that)

As usaul i could be completle of but still I'm quite sure those aren't resistors (if they where they'd probobly have a name begining with R, just like the black thingys have)

[Ge1st]

So we're not sure if it's resistors or not? Hmm... This is indeed a pain, what type of stores could check this mobo and resolder what ever it is? We don't have radio shack near my place, it was all bought out by The Source. Hmm...

[garyopa]

This two missing parts are small "bypass caps", easy to find extras from another PCBoard like a dead PS2 or something.

I have replaced many of these small parts. I use a small battery-operated Soldering Iron bought from the "The Source" to
carefully lift them off a dead board and then resolder them to damaged board.

Got lots of them, if you want I can mail you four or six of them, no cost.

[zillionare]

Hey....Garyopa is correct. You two should hook up.

After discussing this issue with a good friend of mine. They also said that even tho these parts look the same from different boards, they can have different values and rely on those values to establish correct timing among other things.

Maybe sending your board to garyopa if he is willing to help out is the best procedure to fix that problem. I can't garantee the values of these as I don't have a scope here. and all the equipment you would need to do this work wouldn't be worth the investment for just this one fix.

You guys are close to each other. Hope it all goes well.

peace
zil

[Ge1st]

Thankyou Zillionare and Garyopa. Garyopa, do you think the absence of the "two bypass caps" resulted in my unknown error 0103 whitch resulted in game artificating and just freezing period?

[Weeb]

Hey....Garyopa is correct. You two should hook up.

After discussing this issue with a good friend of mine. They also said that even tho these parts look the same from different boards, they can have different values and rely on those values to establish correct timing among other things.

Maybe sending your board to garyopa if he is willing to help out is the best procedure to fix that problem. I can't garantee the values of these as I don't have a scope here. and all the equipment you would need to do this work wouldn't be worth the investment for just this one fix.

You guys are close to each other. Hope it all goes well.

peace
zil

Well that is correct (you basiclly can't read the value from the caps, not every spec at least)

I'm not 100% sure why they are there... if it's for timing same value caps would be nice

however if they are mostly there to reduce noise values are of less importance (could even work to just bridge the point if this is the case and ur a bit lucky, however i don't in any way recommend this)

If you have access to another mobo and some soldering skills  you could desolder the to caps read how many F and just buy something in that range (I don't think the voltage rating should matter much as long as it's not to low but since i don't expect any high voltage going to/from the cpu/gpu (or where it was) 5V or so should be more than enought)

My post is only from a electrical standpoint I've never done anything to an 360 except flashing it and I don't own one myself yet.

[uberfry]

could even work to just bridge the point

hell yes, bridge Vcc and Vss and enjoy the show

[Ge1st]

Well my 360 displayed the error 0102, and you know what, I yelled "FORGET IT". I am tired of opening the box,
I am tired to see them motherboard!!! I  AUGDASDF#%!@$ !#$!#

[bunghoolio]

Just put a couple of caps on that board and tell us if it works.

[olan]

hello guys the 2 smalls parts that is not  resistor that is capacitor/filter..thnx

[gueat]

I just got a 360 m0b0 with 3RL + 0102. I took the heat sink off of the gpu and saw that C4r53 is moved and has slid over to
C4R58, the rest seem to be looking good. I even prodded and tried lifting them with a pointy tool to see if they were solid.
The person that had this board before me used a heat gun on it. Now im left wondering if this capacitor/filter moved before or after he used the heat gun on it.
I will be soldering the capacitor/filter back in the next couple days after I get a new tip for my iron. The one I have on there now would prolly destroy the other 4 in that row Hopefully I don't destroy it since its been a while since this topic was posted in, has anyone had at least 90% success after replacing/re-soldering them back?

Thanks for the tips in the thread guys. I was going to give up before I searched for C4R53!

Oh and from the picture it seams that the parts ur missing are:
C4R58 and C4R53

now the "only" thing you need are instructions what values those to are
(maybe if you know someone that works in some repair shop might have schematics for that)

As usaul i could be completle of but still I'm quite sure those aren't resistors (if they where they'd probobly have a name begining with R, just like the black thingys have)

[isutommyt]

gueat - Did soldering the capacitor/filter back in place work for you? I'm getting the 3RL + 0102 and noticed that C4R53 was out of place. I touched it and half of it fell completely off. Where can I find this exact part to replace and solder it back in place?  Thanks.

[gigabite]

If a component/s is gone, you need to re-solder it back on...be careful you don't rip the pad eh (the "usual" ones go to there own pad...and depending on what has happen you can make a bridge between certain ones and certain "ends")...as for a replacement, just grab one of the same size, and colour off anything...or you can order them (farnel (my new store for everything hehe) should have some...I don't know of the actual "rating" though I know someone did measure it so use the search function)

gigabite

[Ge1st]

I would like to point out this post is a little over 1.5 years ago but kudos for digging it up .

That was my first 360 with error 0102. After doing the heat air trick the two bypass caps fell out. Later that weeek though error 0102 was fixed temporily I got the oddest error 0013 and I knew it was because specifically of those bypass caps. Also soldering isnt my thing as I suck at art and the base of the caps was pretty crappy.

Also at the time there was no non-microsoft  repair service like you see booming today in every province, and my warranty was void... I threw it away and little time after got a new 360.

[isutommyt]

Just an update for future gamers looking for solutions...  I decided to try the heat gun trick. This worked but I hadn't screwed the motherboard into the bottom of the case with the 8 screws. This led to an overheating error code. I retried the heat gun and assembled the 360 more prior to turning it on. I've now played several hours of games and watched a few movies. Lets hope it's fixed! Good luck and thanks all.