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wantin2mod
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« on: August 09, 2012, 07:26:28 PM »

Is there an application that can be launced from a Jtag or RGH console that can prepare and setup a "Retail" hard drive (i.g. - a PC Western Digital 320GB ) for use on a Xbox LIVE console? I've searched much and found no answers to my queery.

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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2012, 07:43:37 PM »

And you won't find it, there's no such thing.
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2012, 10:20:16 PM »

Is it even possible to write such an application for a jtagged or RGH'd console?
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2012, 11:11:47 PM »

I was thinking of this possibility which I also posted elsewhere on the net:


"I have a couple RGH consoles that I use just for my favorite games and emulators while enjoying the homebrew apps that can run on them. I also have some Xbox LIVE consoles that I use for online gaming with my children.
I have done much reading on this hard drive upgrading process on RGH/Jtag and Retail consoles. I was just curious to see if there was application that could be ran from a RGH or Jtag console to prepare a hard drive for a Retail console.

That would be pretty slick if someone could write a program to use on a RGH/Jtag console to get a PC hard drive set up to use on a Retail console. I have a 20GB HDD on my RGH console and I'm wanting to upgrade it to the 320GB HDD. I am awaiting the delivery of my WD 320GB hard drive and use HDDhackr to prepare it for my Xbox LIVE console.

It would be so neat to take that 320GB 2.5" PC HDD, put it in my Xbox360 20GB enclosure, and then attach that to my RGH system running FSD . . . .Launch the Retail HDD setup utility, pick the drive to prepare and Presto!!! Then slap that drive on a Retail console to start transferring/downloading content.

Then again, I know nothing of programming so I don't even know if this is possible.
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2012, 06:53:07 PM »

In general you can only use specific WD HDDs (every with HDDhackr compatible) on a retail 360. This tool modifies the drives so that they can be used in a retail 360.
For the drive to be recognized by the 360, its serial/info must be changed and a signature file (HDDSS.bin) must be written/flashed to it. (If you have appropriate tools, you could probably flash any HDD manually with the neccessary data to be used with a stock 360).

The HDDSS.bin defines the size of the HDD which is detected by the 360. This file is signed by Microsoft with a key we cannot simply obtain, so we cannot just create our own to use any HDD with any size we want.

What we do is using HDDSS.bin files dumped from original 360 drives. But this limits us to the original 360 HDD´s sizes. For example you can flash a 320GB WD with a 250GB HDDSS.bin, then the 360 would only recognize a 250GB HDD. The biggest available HDDSS.bin is currently one for 320GB.

As said, you can use HDDhackr to mod a WD HDD for 360 using your PC but there is no tool to do that on a homebrew-360. It would be pointless anyway.

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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2012, 09:22:00 PM »

In general you can only use specific WD HDDs (every with HDDhackr compatible) on a retail 360. This tool modifies the drives so that they can be used in a retail 360.
For the drive to be recognized by the 360, its serial/info must be changed and a signature file (HDDSS.bin) must be written/flashed to it. (If you have appropriate tools, you could probably flash any HDD manually with the neccessary data to be used with a stock 360).

The HDDSS.bin defines the size of the HDD which is detected by the 360. This file is signed by Microsoft with a key we cannot simply obtain, so we cannot just create our own to use any HDD with any size we want.

What we do is using HDDSS.bin files dumped from original 360 drives. But this limits us to the original 360 HDD´s sizes. For example you can flash a 320GB WD with a 250GB HDDSS.bin, then the 360 would only recognize a 250GB HDD. The biggest available HDDSS.bin is currently one for 320GB.

As said, you can use HDDhackr to mod a WD HDD for 360 using your PC but there is no tool to do that on a homebrew-360. It would be pointless anyway.

Cheers

if you make a hard drive with HDDhackr using a WD drive it works with both RGH/Retail console so no need
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2012, 11:15:29 PM »

In general you can only use specific WD HDDs (every with HDDhackr compatible) on a retail 360. This tool modifies the drives so that they can be used in a retail 360.
For the drive to be recognized by the 360, its serial/info must be changed and a signature file (HDDSS.bin) must be written/flashed to it. (If you have appropriate tools, you could probably flash any HDD manually with the neccessary data to be used with a stock 360).

The HDDSS.bin defines the size of the HDD which is detected by the 360. This file is signed by Microsoft with a key we cannot simply obtain, so we cannot just create our own to use any HDD with any size we want.

What we do is using HDDSS.bin files dumped from original 360 drives. But this limits us to the original 360 HDD´s sizes. For example you can flash a 320GB WD with a 250GB HDDSS.bin, then the 360 would only recognize a 250GB HDD. The biggest available HDDSS.bin is currently one for 320GB.

As said, you can use HDDhackr to mod a WD HDD for 360 using your PC but there is no tool to do that on a homebrew-360. It would be pointless anyway.

Cheers

In general you can only use specific WD HDDs (every with HDDhackr compatible) on a retail 360. This tool modifies the drives so that they can be used in a retail 360.
For the drive to be recognized by the 360, its serial/info must be changed and a signature file (HDDSS.bin) must be written/flashed to it. (If you have appropriate tools, you could probably flash any HDD manually with the neccessary data to be used with a stock 360).

The HDDSS.bin defines the size of the HDD which is detected by the 360. This file is signed by Microsoft with a key we cannot simply obtain, so we cannot just create our own to use any HDD with any size we want.

What we do is using HDDSS.bin files dumped from original 360 drives. But this limits us to the original 360 HDD´s sizes. For example you can flash a 320GB WD with a 250GB HDDSS.bin, then the 360 would only recognize a 250GB HDD. The biggest available HDDSS.bin is currently one for 320GB.

As said, you can use HDDhackr to mod a WD HDD for 360 using your PC but there is no tool to do that on a homebrew-360. It would be pointless anyway.

Cheers

if you make a hard drive with HDDhackr using a WD drive it works with both RGH/Retail console so no need

I was just remembering back to the Xbox1 days with my Xecuter X3 modchip that I installed to my console. There was an option in bios settings to set up a hard drive whether it was a large HDD or the small retail version. Also with the modchip bios settings you could lock or unlock the HDD along with using the FTP functionality to put whatever was required/wanted on the desired partition. I used this X3 Modchip numerous times to set up other HDDs for Xbox consoles in which I used a more simple modchip, DuoX2.

I'm sure there are many out there whom have a XboxLIVE console and also RGH/Jtag consoles. If we could use our modified console to create a HDD for our XboxLIVE console using a home-brew app....rather than having to take the hackable WD HDD to a PC and use the MS-DOS HDDHackr application. We could then use our modified console as an extravagant tool to accomplish this task.  I'm just asking about this idea for convenience sake and ease of use. Needless to say, save a truckload of money to upgrade/add the HDD on a XboxLIVE console.

Like I said, I don't know if it's possible but would be brilliant app!
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2012, 01:47:53 AM »


I was just remembering back to the Xbox1 days with my Xecuter X3 modchip that I installed to my console. There was an option in bios settings to set up a hard drive whether it was a large HDD or the small retail version. Also with the modchip bios settings you could lock or unlock the HDD along with using the FTP functionality to put whatever was required/wanted on the desired partition. I used this X3 Modchip numerous times to set up other HDDs for Xbox consoles in which I used a more simple modchip, DuoX2.

I'm sure there are many out there whom have a XboxLIVE console and also RGH/Jtag consoles. If we could use our modified console to create a HDD for our XboxLIVE console using a home-brew app....rather than having to take the hackable WD HDD to a PC and use the MS-DOS HDDHackr application. We could then use our modified console as an extravagant tool to accomplish this task.  I'm just asking about this idea for convenience sake and ease of use. Needless to say, save a truckload of money to upgrade/add the HDD on a XboxLIVE console.

Like I said, I don't know if it's possible but would be brilliant app!

Those were simple HDD drives with locking support, in the 360 we're dealing with a world worth of difference, digital signatures = hold back, so no, and every HDD manufacturer is very different, as you can read, only certain models are compatible with HDDHackr, and the creator has stated clearly he's not planning in supporting different drives because of the hell of work involved.

Using HDDHackr ain't impossible, you should try.

We all want easy apps, and don't take this bad, but you should read a lot more and find out for yourself how hard this little pretty neat app can be hard to coded.
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