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Author Topic: Recieved silent DAE update, reverted to old NAND got RROD  (Read 1372 times)
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« on: November 17, 2011, 10:13:38 PM »

In typical impatient fashion, knowing that I should have backed up current NAND, I went ahead and flashed an earlier dump I made after applying the original AP2.5 dash. Of course I was at the current dashboard prior to writing the flash considering I recieved the silent update. So now, upon booting I'm greeted with a black screen and RROD. This is a Jasper board.

I suppose some efuses have been tripped since I made the backup. Do I have any options? Donor NAND? Simulate/apply current dash update to my earlier NAND backup? All I want to do is regain the current dash version, I don't care if I'm flagged and I don't care if XGD3 backups don't boot. I'm reflashing right now with an alternate dump, I'm hoping it was a bad write (wishful thinking)..  At the very least, can I use this older nand to glitch the box?

Please help.
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 10:21:28 PM »

You can glitch it alright... But if you put the dump that you made today back it will work too and you will be right back where you were. I mean after the flag...

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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 10:41:22 PM »

I didn't make the dump today.  Haven't even taken a dump today..

As stated, I made the backup in March.  Pretty sure it was the dash where AP2.5 was released.  I have updated a few times since, including the latest dash, got the DAE.bin update yesterday, a day after making XGD3 backups, wanted to remove the flag and play them again, so I wrote the NAND image I made in March, with the intention of updating back to the current dash and reflashing drive again so I would be where I was before the silent update.  Got black screen, 3 red lights.  I do not have a dump any later than the original ap2.5 dump I am working with.
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 02:39:09 AM »

This is why you always have to backup your nand when you do something with it...

Are you using lpt, this might be a little unstable. Try to rewrite your nand again or build yourself a usb flasher...

The silent update won't (as far as I know) burn any fuselines. So theoraticly you should be able to revert.

If all failes you need to giltch it. Look up the fuseline and increase LDV accordingly or just use ggbuild.

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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 05:28:23 AM »

Even if you glitch it and recover it u wont be able to go on live anymore, security files would be reverted and MS will notice that, leading you to a ban.
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 05:35:12 AM »

This is why you always have to backup your nand when you do something with it...

Are you using lpt, this might be a little unstable. Try to rewrite your nand again or build yourself a usb flasher...

The silent update won't (as far as I know) burn any fuselines. So theoraticly you should be able to revert.

If all failes you need to giltch it. Look up the fuseline and increase LDV accordingly or just use ggbuild.

Regards

I am using lpt which is the reason I didn't back up prior to flashing, simple impatience.  It would have taken over 24 hours and I guess I was subconsciously thinking the efuses was a one shot deal to stop jtags.

I don't mind glitching as I was planning on doing it anyway.  But I've reflashed twice, with two identical dumps and get nothing but black screen, no video initialization period.  Where I start with the RGH if I don't have a proper dump?
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2011, 05:37:17 AM »

Even if you glitch it and recover it u wont be able to go on live anymore, security files would be reverted and MS will notice that, leading you to a ban.

I couldn't care less about signing into live.  Especially after this.  All this is because I signed onto XBL FREE.
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 07:12:08 AM »

So your flashing a jasper 512MB with lpt.

Damn that's hard.

Also how many times did you dump the nand in the first place (please don't say one)?

Be eware that only the first 64MB of the nand matters for a jasper. The rest contains your MU (Internal Memory Unit).

Build yourself a usb spi. It will save you a lot of troubles...


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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2011, 02:15:22 PM »

Even if you glitch it and recover it u wont be able to go on live anymore, security files would be reverted and MS will notice that, leading you to a ban.

I couldn't care less about signing into live.  Especially after this.  All this is because I signed onto XBL FREE.

Well, then yes, u can easily recover it.
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2011, 06:18:00 AM »

Thanks for the replies.  I bought a cool runner locally today, seller programmed it for my mobo.  Last night I flashed my "bad" dump just to see what would happen and got the same results, black screen.  Anyway, created my ecc from one of my "good" old dumps, flashed it, installed the cool runner in very clean manner, and the xbox will not power on although the coolrunner did have the red light on.  I'm hoping this is simply because I flashed the bad dump and/or the ecc created out of my old good dump.  We'll see when I wake up.


So a couple questions.  Will this old dump even work with the RGH?  All seemed well creating the ecc with 360 Multi builder.  Do I need latest dash that every tutorial says to update to followed by NAND dump?


If not, how do I go about building a correct image to flash with a donor?

Update: Powers up after writing first 64 MB of the "good" dump from old dash, will not power up after writing the .ecc file created from the same dump.  Again, dump is from debut of AP2.5 dash, around this same time last year.


Thanks again:)
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2011, 09:03:43 AM »

... you can create the ecc from any nanddump, disregarding the dash version, as long as the dump is from the same console type. If it does not glitch at all, please review the many posts around, check cb versione, check cables, make sure the ecc is created correctly. Best would be to get it from someone for whom it surely worked on the same console type.
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2011, 02:39:43 PM »

Have you checked your cb to see if you can glitch it?? Also if you need any help i have 2 doners i can send you from another 512 jasper or i could just help you build an image with parts from your nand.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 07:15:14 PM »

CB is 6750, so from what I understand it is valid.  But system does not power up when creating ECC from the same dump.  It does power up before I flash the ECC however..  I don't see how I could be creating the image incorrectly, just load dump in multi builder .3, select mobo and it spits it out..  Is a proper .ecc all that needs to be on the nand in order to boot Xell?  It's japser 256 though, so I'm not sure if one for a 512 would work.
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2011, 08:06:31 PM »

Ok, seems I can't read instructions.  I was writing the ecc with -w instead of +w.  After writing with +w, it booted Xell in about 6 seconds.

Thanks again for all the help Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2011, 11:16:50 PM »

So I created a ggbuild image via multi builder .3, using the old dump, and get a black screen.  Do I need to be using an image with dashboard 13604?  Is there any way I can build a working image using this old dump, or do I need a donor?
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2011, 11:22:47 PM »

So I created a ggbuild image via multi builder .3, using the old dump, and get a black screen.  Do I need to be using an image with dashboard 13604?  Is there any way I can build a working image using this old dump, or do I need a donor?

send me ur nand and cpu key and ill build u a working nand m8 Cheesy pm me
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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2011, 11:32:45 PM »

Well if you are going to trust anybody with building you an image phonsey would be the one. Good thing you got it to atleast boot xell though.
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2011, 04:58:17 AM »

The job is done.  I'm back to 13604, hacked 13604 no less.  Thanks MS for forcing me to glitch my Xbox by updating it without telling me, well done Wink

For anyone who's interested or in the same situation, this problem was difficult for me to find a solution for and not well documented, so I'll post a mini-tutorial.  I found my answer here in post #15: http://www.team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74685&page=2.

In a nutshell, here's what you do:

-Flash good "old" NAND (YOU ALREADY DID THAT!)
-Perform RGH
-Count F's in fuse set 7 shown in Xell
-Insert value under cfldv line in options.ini within Multi Builder's "my360" directory.
-Recreate the image with MB and flash again.

Enjoy having a better machine than you did before you messed it up.
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2011, 08:37:08 AM »

Why did you have to go back to glitched?

Surely after you corrected your LDV mistake your retail build should now work?
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2011, 10:17:14 AM »

Why did you have to go back to glitched?

Surely after you corrected your LDV mistake your retail build should now work?

Nothing is set in stone.  I just built another glitched image instead of retail.  I'll play around with it for awhile, set up a hard drive with some things I want.  Then revert to retail dash, uninstall the coolrunner, sell it, and run a dual NAND setup on the slim:)

Thanks again to everyone for the assistance.
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