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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 05:02:33 AM » |
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Hardly a news is it? This was expected and as few other members said, fighting AP25 with re-burning backups is stupid, now its officially pointless.
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 05:14:03 AM » |
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Hardly a news? Up until this point they had been updating the ap2.5 challenge set purely with a dashboard update, was just a heads up to everyone who might not know. It doesn't really affect me, just thought it was interesting...
The important bit now is the intended frequency of these updates.. with no visual indicator to the end user.. Me thinks its game over + I failed to mention that the dae is supposedly unique to each console, so unless you want to RGH get cpu key/nand read-rerip (lol) - out of luck..
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2011, 05:48:09 AM » |
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It is hardly a news because it was the only way for them to go, i'm surprised they don't update the CRL on-the-fly, but probably not that many entries anyway.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2011, 06:42:20 AM » |
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Thanks for the news, mattjk - I would have missed this if it weren't for your post.
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2011, 02:44:16 PM » |
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2011, 08:03:00 PM » |
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That will be why I got an unsupported disc error today? There was me thinking the lens was on the way out. Ah well, ban hammer it is then. Wish I had time to see the site in work today, could have caught this. Thats what happens when C4E decides to take the piss out of the enforcement team in his latest release notes.
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2011, 08:22:29 PM » |
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nice move by m$
everyone will have to constantly rip their custom dae.bin to grab correct ap2.5 resonses and god knows how many the table will increase to
pretty much kils off piracy as discs would have to be patched using each console specific dae.bin.
smart.
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2011, 08:51:35 PM » |
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I doubt it will kill it, just means no XBL for backups or pirates. Doubt there would be much business for TX for purely offline backups though!
It's funny reading all the pirates crying because there not online with MW3, just as they were getting into it. MS have the last LOL.
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2011, 09:03:28 PM » |
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Also remember non ap2.5 drives. Those xbox's could be worth a few bob in future (ones that haven't RLOD anyway!)
console specific dae is even smarter than I expected. Maybe they use the CPU key in an algo to generate challenges. But how can the unique challenge have a known response? The xbox would have to know the whole retail disk. maybe it could ask an XBL database with a virtual copy of the disk for the responses when it first generates the unique dae, or selects some random challanges/responses from a large database. I'm just thinking out loud here lol.
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2011, 11:43:27 PM » |
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i have a fix anyways guys and its a simple one at that lol RGH the xbox get cpu key and replace the dae.bin with the proper 13604 dae.bin and flash it back to the nand and then Write Protect the nand so microsoft cant write to the nand again when ur online  Simple Yet Smart  lmao  or  |
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2011, 02:51:48 AM » |
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I might try this fix to one of my consoles that is still offline from 5 days ago. Only problem I have to undo for next dash update.
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2011, 03:22:33 AM » |
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i have a fix anyways guys and its a simple one at that lol RGH the xbox get cpu key and replace the dae.bin with the proper 13604 dae.bin and flash it back to the nand and then Write Protect the nand so microsoft cant write to the nand again when ur online Simple Yet Smart lmao Till MS ban you for WP nand |
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2011, 06:56:27 AM » |
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I'd like to hear from an expert (ie Tiros) on his thoughts. Whether this really is the end of back-ups on live... I remember him stating something similar when it was first implemented a year ago..
I'm pretty dumb compared to some of the high rollers on this site, but I cant fathom a simple way round for CFW.. (maybe easier for the ODDE type devices) but the fact it delivers the update silently (and if they plan to do this every few days/week) I don't know how you would evade this.. I guess WP Nand is an option but MS will get wise to that lol
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2011, 07:04:02 AM » |
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Maybe it's time for everyone to RGH, move over to Xlink Kai and keep their Xbox Live subs in their pockets?
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2011, 07:45:49 AM » |
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Maybe it's time for everyone to RGH, move over to Xlink Kai and keep their Xbox Live subs in their pockets?
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2011, 08:33:33 AM » |
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2011, 09:57:38 AM » |
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looks like the older Xenons with samsung and hitachi's prices are going to go through the roof now!
time to get reballing guys!!
if ms can slip in a new dae.bin, im sure they can read the version on the console, so if you have the old one its prob a flag for a ban.
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2011, 05:26:10 PM » |
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So If I,m getting this right old Xenon with original MS28 Samsung Flashed with LT2.01 is not affected by this DAE.bin update for online gaming ??
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2011, 06:00:35 PM » |
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All samsung and v59 or lower Hitachis should be fine (although you can't get XGD3 on hitachi yet). They can't do AP2.5 checks as far as I know.
I have a Hitachi xbox too, but I have that as stock and just playing originals.
I've had enough of this cat and mouse crap anyway just for backups, only been back on XBL a few weeks on my lite-on xbox. It's not worth the hassle anymore.
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