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« on: August 07, 2011, 04:53:05 AM » |
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consoleopen.com was born to be truthful despite commercial interest, we give you Facts. We received a sample of ProgSkeet from electronicmods.com advertised as the perfect NOR flasher for PS3 slim, a simple google search will tell you about thousand promises but no facts. When the sample was delivered there was no software to use it, patiently we waited for NOR flashing to appear, in the meantime schematics were changing with no advice. So, what do we have to say ? ProgSkeet is fooling with us, today (7 August 2011) we are here with a list of promises and no facts. An open source project ( Norway with Teensy++ 2.0) can read and write NOR flashes correctly, in the meantime ProgSkeet customers got zero support (ridicolous documentation, awful treatment in the official forum), very buggy software (flasher BETA 110803, original download here if you want double check with the chip correctly installed) that dumps only 512 KByte (you can try to insert sector size and sector count but it gives you Incorrect Parameter) and a thousand promises never fulfilled. Are you hurrying to buy it? Don't be! Use your old infectus to dump NAND flashes and get a Teensy++ 2.0 to dump NOR or just wait for more promises ... ...and this is the fail: 
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ReadnWRITE
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 07:44:39 AM » |
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Your an idiot - you have to select 128 from the drop down not type it in. I've used this device and I will never use another p.o.s flashing device again. The speed's destroy that of the infectus and teensy. Time is money. I don't want to have to use a Teensy and dump my nand over night only to wake up in the morning and see its not even done yet. You are ignorant and are crying for attention. The software does say BETA in the top corner does it not? Patience and a good attitude get you a long way. Im no expert, I shouldn't even have an account on these forums but I can confirm that is product is top shelf next to all the open source crap thats out there. Select 128 from the list rather than typing it in manually and if the drop down buttons are "too small" just use your keyboard. This would have been the first logical step in troubleshooting for anyone with a brain. [EDIT] And it looks like I stumbled across your ignorance in the official forum. http://www.progskeet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=35 This goes to show your are not someone who own a device like this. And the best part is you got a SAMPLE COPY for FREE! Give me a break. damox said it best "The ProgSkeet is a tool for DEVELOPERS - it was never marketed to noobs or the like." |
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Rogero
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 08:58:32 AM » |
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well, I ordered the Progskeet Flasher myself (not a sample.... I paid for it because I know this piece of equipment will be very useful to me on the long run), I have received it some days ago, and I can tell you it's a really nice piece of hardware, (off course for the people who knows how to use it) The PCB is high quality and very well made, the software flasher is being fixed and updated constantly by uf6667, already most soldering diagrams for the PS3, the Wii (and today for the xbox360 too) are available, many friends used it to make PS3 dumps, Brick Recovery, and downgrades without any problem... and the best thing of all is being able to get direct support from the developers on the Efnet official support channel : #progskeet-support
So i think it's better to give the Progskeet Flasher (which is very promising) some time to get the different diagrams ready for many platforms and not only for Video Game consoles, this is natural with every new product to get some time before being fully supported on all platforms, and this apply for some of our everyday best used products too.
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raidenxtribe
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 03:21:48 PM » |
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Your an idiot - you have to select 128 from the drop down not type it in. I've used this device and I will never use another p.o.s flashing device again. The speed's destroy that of the infectus and teensy. Time is money. I don't want to have to use a Teensy and dump my nand over night only to wake up in the morning and see its not even done yet. You are ignorant and are crying for attention. The software does say BETA in the top corner does it not? Patience and a good attitude get you a long way. Im no expert, I shouldn't even have an account on these forums but I can confirm that is product is top shelf next to all the open source crap thats out there. Select 128 from the list rather than typing it in manually and if the drop down buttons are "too small" just use your keyboard. This would have been the first logical step in troubleshooting for anyone with a brain. [EDIT] And it looks like I stumbled across your ignorance in the official forum. http://www.progskeet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=35 This goes to show your are not someone who own a device like this. And the best part is you got a SAMPLE COPY for FREE! Give me a break. damox said it best "The ProgSkeet is a tool for DEVELOPERS - it was never marketed to noobs or the like." Yeah, very nice post but on sunday, today, we got an update of the flasher, it is now 110807 ... Awesome , what a coincidence ! Yeah yeah it was already scheduled ! I will surely believe that ^_^ |
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Rogero
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2011, 04:34:29 PM » |
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Yeah, very nice post but on sunday, today, we got an update of the flasher, it is now 110807 ... Awesome , what a coincidence ! Yeah yeah it was already scheduled ! I will surely believe that ^_^
what's exactly your problem mate, you didn't like ProgSkeet, that's really fine...just drop it, ( or even sell your free Sample  ) then use whatever flasher you feel comfortable with, let it be a teensy, an Infectus, or your own homemade pcb.... and about today's update by uf6667, this only shows how much the developers of ProgSkeet are dedicated to their project, he's been working on it all day even it is a Sunday, also he's trying to help many users at the same time on the forum and on the Efnet support channel.... So please stop your childish non-sense and if you have problems just try to join the team at #Progskeet-support where you will find the help you need from many talented developers and friends in there... Cheers |
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Rogero
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2011, 04:41:01 PM » |
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Please Mods/Admins lock down or remove this thread all together, it's really annoying the fact that a full team is working on a device to improve the software, make it better and more universal, while someone else opens a thread with the title: ProgSkeet epic fail...
Thanks.
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ReadnWRITE
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2011, 05:40:48 PM » |
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Yeah, very nice post but on sunday, today, we got an update of the flasher, it is now 110807 ... Awesome , what a coincidence ! Yeah yeah it was already scheduled ! I will surely believe that ^_^
This has been updated daily close to daily since its release. This update was made for idiots (like you) as shown here: https://twitter.com/#!/uf6667/status/100162200001449984 - This software has been getting updates on a close to daily basis since release. DO NOT act as if this is the only update that has been made. Maybe other issues need to me taken care of prior to changing the text box to drop down only. Id much rather be able to read my interfaces properly than have a little bug fix that can be avoided if you have a brain. |
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2011, 06:02:55 PM » |
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Sorry, I'm an idiot so i really can't understand, why bothering to correct this little issue if it's not a real issue ?
No one other than me, will insert those value manually, i'm sure !
Call me whatever you like, the fact is that there was a bug, i'm glad it's fixed but bad support is still there! Hope and wish it gets better.
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2011, 06:47:08 PM » |
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maybe you need some dexamphetamine or methylphenidate to read the "beta" part in the caption? other than that, you might've noticed in the thread on progskeet forum that you have not even once answered to his questions, rather diverted to stir up chaos. just give it up, we know you're in possession of AVR boards and infectus and desperately trying to get rid of them.
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2011, 04:29:19 AM » |
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I read about advertised features that are not present while already selling the product: ProgSkeet is your one and only solution to your flashing needs. Whether it is NAND, NOR or any other kind of non-volatile memory - just solder, plug in and operate!
Blazing fast read/write speed!
People must know about that, it's like buying a car, jump right in it with keys in your hand and discover that it will work some time in the future. You can advertise the Beta instead of selling a partially working product... And, ops, i don't have anything to sell so i can say the truth instead of hiding it. |
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damox
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2011, 05:29:01 AM » |
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People must know about that, it's like buying a car, jump right in it with keys in your hand and discover that it will work some time in the future. You can advertise the Beta instead of selling a partially working product...
And, ops, i don't have anything to sell so i can say the truth instead of hiding it.
No - it's more like buying a fighter pilot. Whithout the right skillset in actually using the hardware - you can't make it work. Instead of having your period (and essentially making yourself and your supposed factual website look like a bunch of piss-ants) why don't you try and help out - jump on IRC and offer up the bug? This all comes down to you entering a number into a field that wasn't supposed to accept user typed input and then you having a cry that it didn't work. Really? Could you be more petty? tldr? Not proficient enough to use/understand a product - blow it out your ass chump. We are done here. EDIT to address your update: Update: software was update today (110807), it fixes the exact problem published here, banning me from progskeet forum instead of admitting the problem itself is a confirmation of bad support, i'm sure it's easier to listen to customers and fix a problem than hiding it You were banned for being rude - plain and simple. As ReadnWRITE said updates have been coming out thick and fast with a thankless coder doing all the work. It is easier to fix a problm than to hide it - which is why the trivial problem was fixed. Ever heard of a changelog? Nothing is being hiden - although your idiotic story is more exciting that way. |
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raidenxtribe
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2011, 06:14:59 AM » |
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Ok, so i'm supposed to make it work by myself now, NOR flashing is advertised but i need to make it work by myself...
Nice said and keep going with this type of support ^_^
I actually posted the bug, i was treated like a fool, I answered accordingly just to be banned, the bug was still there and it was fixed AFTER all this, you can say whatever you like but it's not a coincidence and it still proves awful documentation and support for a commercial product that it's already for sale.
I'm sure it will get better but it doesn't change the fact that right now it's a beta and customers are not warned.
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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2011, 06:57:36 AM » |
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Your an idiot - you have to select 128 from the drop down not type it in. I've used this device and I will never use another p.o.s flashing device again. The speed's destroy that of the infectus and teensy. Time is money. I don't want to have to use a Teensy and dump my nand over night only to wake up in the morning and see its not even done yet. You are ignorant and are crying for attention. The software does say BETA in the top corner does it not? Patience and a good attitude get you a long way. Im no expert, I shouldn't even have an account on these forums but I can confirm that is product is top shelf next to all the open source crap thats out there. Select 128 from the list rather than typing it in manually and if the drop down buttons are "too small" just use your keyboard. This would have been the first logical step in troubleshooting for anyone with a brain. [EDIT] And it looks like I stumbled across your ignorance in the official forum. http://www.progskeet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=35 This goes to show your are not someone who own a device like this. And the best part is you got a SAMPLE COPY for FREE! Give me a break. damox said it best "The ProgSkeet is a tool for DEVELOPERS - it was never marketed to noobs or the like." Lol and where is the news?  ;awesome lamers 100% |
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raidenxtribe
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2011, 04:38:32 PM » |
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damox
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2011, 10:51:53 PM » |
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I could't even begin to list the devices the teensy currently (or ever) doesn't flash.
Guess it is worth repeating - butthurt much?
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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2011, 09:37:31 AM » |
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We (me and my partner) bought two units. One came DoA (detects as unknown device 80% of the time) and when it connects properly it fails the short circuits test (It has never been soldered anywhere go figure).
The other one seems to have come with ADR13 pin blown as all I was able to dump with it was the first 32KB of the Samsung NOR flash I was trying to dump.
Bad resellers damaging the goods with ESD will also give you bad publicity.
The progskeet is a way too expensive device to have such problems.
And my topic on progskeet forum was very helpful. only one person wanted to help.
We bought two man. And neither worked.
I deal with this kind of multi wires install since 2001 (PS2) and I never had any problems of ruining the hardware I'm dealing with. Well I had several times where things didn't work but it usually was the chip I was trying to install.
I'd like to have an reply about this.
Edit: Currently on the IRC support channel. If anything comes out of that I'll post here.
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2011, 02:35:45 PM » |
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You can also try signing up my site " http://ps3crunch.net" as we have alot of users with Progskeet, and some successful ones, plus one of the key developers "uf6667" has personally helped out people there. You can also pass the message on to me via PM, and I will get it into the hands of the direct makers and make sure they fix the problem for you one way or the other. |
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