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Author Topic: Probable Pre-RROD, graphic glitches, advice?  (Read 1350 times)
coreyinoz
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« on: April 02, 2010, 06:17:53 PM »

Hi Guys,

I have a Falcon mobo that I JTAG'd myself as soon as the hack came out. To my dismay, the box started freezing with graphic glitches today (vertical snowy white lines, garbage sound).

Doing some searching, it sounds like a have a RROD waiting to happen. I was hoping to get some advice from the experts on next steps;

- Try an X-clamp / heat gun?
- Try a reflow repair? Looks like some semi-reputable dealers on CL. Anyone have a recommended dealer in Vancouver, Canada?
- Proceed directly to a reballed GPU from Ebay, and get that reflowed on?

I'm in love with my JTAG'd box, and it breaks my heart to see it dying! To make matters worse, I sold my insurance box literally 24 hours ago after sitting on it in the closet for months and thinking I didn't need it any more  Cry

Thanks for the advice.

coreyinoz
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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2010, 02:02:22 AM »

I was hoping to get some advice

get a box that is less likely to error (Jasper)

reflow will only work for a certain period, and a reball doesn't guarantee a permanently fixed 360 as well
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2010, 11:04:50 AM »

Ugh - that's what I was afraid of.

However, finding exploitable Jasper boxes isn't exactly easy these days (at least I haven't been seeing reasonably priced ones any more)...

Thanks,

coreyinoz
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2010, 04:02:21 PM »

i just reflowed my xenon using the oven tut
so your saying it wont hold?
is there any good fix out there cuz from wht i understand once you reflow the box and you make sure it dosent get remotley hot anymore(using various mods)
then you shouldnt meet the dreadful RROD again
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2010, 05:07:26 PM »

Reballing can help, just reflowing will never be permanent.
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2010, 06:03:50 PM »

so what anyone can point me out to a site with some more info about reballing
like the exact tools and so
and avcourse a good basic tut
thanks
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2010, 06:50:41 PM »

reballing isn't something you can just do at home. it involves removing the CPU, replacing all 500-something solder balls, and getting it back on absolutely precisely.
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2010, 11:00:33 PM »

I Just Calculated the points (899 - CPU) (1017 - GPU) http://www.pcb-soldering.co.uk have some nice equipment and there are templates/tools on ebay. I think for a few hundred quid and practice you could do it yourself. Personally i would like to purchase an xbox CPU/GPU LGA Socket.
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2010, 11:30:08 PM »

i think that would be a wicked product to create. a template that you setup on both the gpu/cpu and spots on the mb (kind of like the template for reballing, except with pins and female socket) and you use a heatgun/flux to solder on, and just plug it in...........i was thinking about that, just it would be hard to align on the motherboard.
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2010, 03:40:54 PM »

http://www.larsenassociates.com/

Custom BGA & LGA
PinBall™ Socket
Contact us with your needs.
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This looks interesting!
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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2010, 11:43:31 PM »

wow, pretty much exactly what i was thinking. even has the heat sink

i guess it would probably cost hundreds of dollars, and make it worthless to get since a new box can be had for less.

still, pretty cool that you don't have to reball and reflow the gpu back on with this.
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