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ReverseAffect
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« on: February 15, 2010, 12:24:59 PM »

what in the f*** is with all this "i though i can solder $#!t" "what did i do wrong my pad is 2mm and my tip is 15mm"...lol
do these noobs know this ain't some pos toy to just f*** it up and it will repair itself?

I am surprised not 1 noob asked for a SOLDER-LESS JTAG setup........

my freaking 10 year old can solder better then half the $#!t i seen on this forums.....
#$#$!#@$$#$$!# god does this piss me off......
ok done venting.....Tongue
  
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 12:47:50 PM »

The first time I soldered electronics was my banned 360 to recover HD installation.  It went surprisingly easy and was less scary than I expected it to be.

I'm 29 and have a kid, so I believe what I have going for me is patience.  After I got my HD installation back, I ran out and bought a Pro console (only thing around here jtaggable) and went to work on it.  Because I did so much reading, it pretty much just worked.  J

Most of the bad pics posted here look like a 14 year old who drank 2L of Mountain Dew and tried to rush through the job in order to get his "backups" working.

Anyway, these forums were a great resource for me.  My soldering job isn't great, but it works and it isn't budging. 

Might be helpful to have the site have a warning before you post to check the important links and to use the search features before posting the same old questions.
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 01:13:33 PM »

Most of the bad pics posted here look like a 14 year old who drank 2L of Mountain Dew and tried to rush through the job in order to get his "backups" working.


MINT Smiley

well this is called xboxhacker not xboxhackEmUp.......and post your worst...lol

I do know most don't have your common scene so Smiley

and some also think that 3.3 volts when soldered wrong won't cause harm when they short them out.
(ERASE THAT FROM YOUR BRAINS...and you ask why is my PSUs light RED)that is false in many ways...I won't even post about this.you should know why
if you can lay down a pin head of flux and tin the wire place it on the pad and then let the tip softly down..
if you have to "push that tip hard" with that pinhead of flux on that spot ...........STOP.........

THE ABC's of soldering for noobs   Tongue
A)Your iron is to hot (yes iron not gun don't use a radio shack f****** semi gun(as big as a truck for these spots).
B) Your tip is not clean and tinted (not tinted tips = solder will stick to the tip if not sides of it trying to tin it up and your holding the iron on the pad/hole to f****** long and starting to overheat and or burn a pad or areas of traces off, so make sure the tip is tinted..
C)your iron is either warn out and can't heat because it's to brown/black or a 'lock screw tip' (screw on ones are more solid and or stations)

EXAMPLE: I dunk my tip in my flux (850f tip) wipe it on my handy sponge(not pants:P) then solder the area to be soldered.....

good day!

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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 02:09:25 PM »

Reverse,
Try to control yourself man, you dont need to reply in every thread!
Almost 800 posts since December? Wtf?
You wanna help noobs, thats fine, head over to XS. We dont like noobs here.
Your spamming our forum with a lot of useless info, and I for one am getting tired of reading through all your crap.

Regards

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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 02:10:41 PM »

ok i am done..........sorry....and i will pass on the xbox-scene bs you said..

ain't this a General Discussion?




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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 09:15:45 PM »

Reverse i have to agree here, my irons tip is f*****, all i do is run some 2000grit sandpaper over it before doing a job, and still get much better than some of the $#!t thats been showing up on here recently, well more to the point whats been showing up around here lately has just been completely balls.
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 09:17:56 PM »

forgot about the sandpaper bit to...Smiley


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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2010, 03:06:49 AM »

Everyone should watch this video at least once: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_NU2ruzyc4
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2010, 11:02:20 AM »

patience and willingness to learn AND understand what you're doing is key in soldering

I started off by watching video's.. lots..

then got a scrapboard to dump a nand, a 15W iron for 10€, first setup here:
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h245/jelle2503/p1910091329.jpg

looked like $#!t.. but got 3 matching dumps so i knew i was good

moved on to do some more JTAG setups, all working fine...

then got my first customer with 93450.. very nerv wrecking, but I told him i'd be able to do it (i disclaimed to him, there was a possibility I could mess up due to my lack of skills)
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h245/jelle2503/P10-12-09_1509-1.jpg (first time I had cut traces)

then soldered in a Cygnosv2 in a brand new Jasper 16MB.. very nerv wrecking.. but surprisingly all went OK, looked like I have some talent (< first soldering job that looked OK, all shiny solder and proper connections, wires neatly organized)

First brick I made was the Liteon 73450 from that same Jasper 16MB, after having done 6 JTAG setups, and 5 new liteons.. still don't know why I messed it up.. used a glassfiber pen first time so I suppose that was the issue, something must've bridged, so i now just scrape the tracks I solder to.
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