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« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2009, 06:49:50 PM » |
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the freeze is due to some code in the patch engine, but it has nothing to do with the actual patches.
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« Reply #61 on: December 22, 2009, 07:39:54 PM » |
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well, the recent release of XBReboot for 256 and 512 mb nands means the XBReboot team has been working hard in order to have support for those nands.. im sure with that out of the way they are focusing on fixing the slow down issues... at least this assures us that the project was not abandoned if there were ever any doubts...
I, even with my lack of expertise, do not believe this issue is impossible to fix/will not be fixed as someone mentioned ealier... just a little common sense and basic knowledge of hardware allows me to arrive at this conclusion...
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« Reply #62 on: December 22, 2009, 08:07:43 PM » |
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I, even with my lack of expertise, do not believe this issue is impossible to fix/will not be fixed as someone mentioned ealier... just a little common sense and basic knowledge of hardware allows me to arrive at this conclusion...
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« Reply #63 on: December 22, 2009, 09:26:57 PM » |
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Well, it really depends on what their priorities are. If XBR authors are more interested in homebrew versus gaming, they may not see the gaming issues as a priority. Either way, getting those jasper units up and running would have been my priority too.
I think it's safe to assume XBR will improve as well as Freeboot. Eventually we may even see Freeboot supporting single nand. Right now you have several options to keep your hobby juices flowing and the work of the rebooter/loader teams has put us miles ahead of where the public was 2 months ago.
We have a lot to play with!
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« Reply #64 on: December 23, 2009, 01:25:28 AM » |
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i found with shadow complex the game would slow down to a stop, then if i waited a while - it would go back to full speed
would do this around the 10 min mark - still playable with patience.
Also i tried Section8 on a usb pen drive and used usb loader - it loaded up great first time and playable - but after a reboot and restarting my saved game the
game would freeze everytime on loading.
No idea if any of this is relevant but I'm not too fussed about the games, i'm just enjoying all the fun i'm having messing with the hardware! Haven't really touched the 360 in months.
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« Reply #65 on: December 23, 2009, 03:56:59 AM » |
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I think this issue deserves its own thread so that us XBReboot users can get either a definitive answer to our questions or a proposed working solution (since whoever made it has not answered our doubts officially)...
I have XBReboot_1 with KV and config blocks inserted as specified by guides. The slowdowns occurs on a per game basis , and not because of the type of media used AND AFTER SEVERAL MINUTES OF PLAY (Please dont post saying u dont have slow downs unless you play the game for 10-15 minutes)... I have so far tested Street Fighter 4 (Burned DL_DVD) and Assasins Creed 2 (Internal HD)... I am getting slowdowns on BOTH... ALL my XBLA games have worked smoothly tho...
If i disconnect HD and hence im not signed in to any profile, SF4 plays at full speed for longer, but after a while it starts slowing down again...
In order to keep this post useful:
1. If you were having slow downs before, but have made XBR image changes and reflashed, completely fixing the problem, please LET US ALL KNOW!
2. Do no reply to this thread saying "my XBReebot works perfect" unless you have tried the above specified games, or games that other users list for AT LEAST 15 minutes...
3. If you know for sure 100% that the creator of XBR has identified, or recognizes that the problem is not a FLASHING problem but rather an issue with XBR itself... then let us know so we dont waste hours and hours in research and trial and error.
4. Abstain from smartass comments, there is no thread ESPECIFICALLY dedicated to figuring this out, and if there is a solution then it has not been proved/argumented to be the real reason of the slowdowns... only trying to help out, us the users, and the creators so if theyve made mistakes they can troubleshoot with our info...
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« Reply #66 on: December 23, 2009, 12:33:48 PM » |
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same settings as mine, kv and config inserted , doesn't slow down to me on any game... even the latest games.
Have you tried say Shadow Complex or Assasin's Creed 2? Have you played them for greater than 30 minutes without any incident. If so, please report anything special about your setup. Your setup in general. If not, please go try these games. When people report "my setup run's perfectly", it doesn't help any of us. All it does is make us not believe you, as most often times, people are simply loading the games up and calling it "running perfect." But if not, please help solve this problem. |
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« Reply #67 on: December 23, 2009, 01:02:50 PM » |
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Eventually we may even see Freeboot supporting single nand. actually there are working single nand Freeboot images.. but who's to say they'll ever get released to the public =) |
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« Reply #68 on: December 23, 2009, 01:20:01 PM » |
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Eventually we may even see Freeboot supporting single nand. actually there are working single nand Freeboot images.. but who's to say they'll ever get released to the public because the Cygnos monopoly would die. =) Fixed. I think we only need to modify the smc code (and remap Xell) to get freeBOOT working in only one nand. |
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« Reply #69 on: December 23, 2009, 01:30:21 PM » |
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I built an xd/nand switchable setup on my zephyr and can confirm that the same images that lag/freze on xbr work fine on freeboot.
I'm quite sure it won't be long before someone gets freeboot or some own patch system going on single nand.
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« Reply #70 on: December 23, 2009, 07:00:11 PM » |
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Personally I don't believe anyone can be running XBR with no issues at all. I find HD trials will freak within 30 seconds for anyone running XBR, so its a good test.
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« Reply #71 on: December 23, 2009, 08:51:10 PM » |
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Eventually we may even see Freeboot supporting single nand. actually there are working single nand Freeboot images.. but who's to say they'll ever get released to the public =) I think the two nand setup long term is not sustainable. Cygnos costs way too much (keep in mind they are not cheap to manufacture) and the XD mod is simply too much work for most. If XBR sorts out it's lag issues, there will be little reason for the majority of users to select Freeboot if dual nand is all that's available. On the other hand, if Freeboot currently was as easy to install on a single nand as XBR is now, then very few people would be interested in XBR because of the issues it has. - Blackaddr |
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« Reply #72 on: December 24, 2009, 05:20:24 AM » |
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weird, tried a few things this morning, not one slow down at all  shadow complex hasn't slowed down once I haven't done anything different either just turned it on for the first time today - maybe it thinks its xmas  |
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« Reply #73 on: December 24, 2009, 06:27:39 AM » |
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same settings as mine, kv and config inserted , doesn't slow down to me on any game... even the latest games.
Have you tried say Shadow Complex or Assasin's Creed 2? Have you played them for greater than 30 minutes without any incident. If so, please report anything special about your setup. Your setup in general. If not, please go try these games. When people report "my setup run's perfectly", it doesn't help any of us. All it does is make us not believe you, as most often times, people are simply loading the games up and calling it "running perfect." But if not, please help solve this problem. i'll be precise, where did you play your game? disc or hdd |
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« Reply #74 on: December 24, 2009, 06:47:24 AM » |
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same settings as mine, kv and config inserted , doesn't slow down to me on any game... even the latest games.
Have you tried say Shadow Complex or Assasin's Creed 2? Have you played them for greater than 30 minutes without any incident. If so, please report anything special about your setup. Your setup in general. If not, please go try these games. When people report "my setup run's perfectly", it doesn't help any of us. All it does is make us not believe you, as most often times, people are simply loading the games up and calling it "running perfect." But if not, please help solve this problem. i'll be precise, where did you play your game? disc or hdd Me both. It must be the same. |
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« Reply #75 on: December 24, 2009, 07:09:32 AM » |
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« Reply #76 on: December 24, 2009, 07:13:10 AM » |
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Weird thing in my case is when I insert Config block, my console doesn't boot and gives me the red light but by inserting only the KV, console works fine but I have slowdowns! It's really annoying when we don't know what causes the problem.  |
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« Reply #77 on: December 24, 2009, 08:45:29 AM » |
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Weird thing in my case is when I insert Config block, my console doesn't boot and gives me the red light but by inserting only the KV, console works fine but I have slowdowns! It's really annoying when we don't know what causes the problem. i would urge u to check u are inserting it at the correct offset. and that its an ENCrypted config block. also my box gave me 2rrod at first. but was running xell!! i removed the power cable for a minute and booted without a DVD in the drive. wala! initial setup menu try it a few times before judging its not working. cheers. |
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« Reply #78 on: December 24, 2009, 09:10:49 AM » |
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its a problem with xell and the patches at boot!
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« Reply #79 on: December 24, 2009, 09:34:03 AM » |
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its a problem with xell and the patches at boot!
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