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« on: December 16, 2009, 09:44:06 AM » |
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I think this issue deserves its own thread so that us XBReboot users can get either a definitive answer to our questions or a proposed working solution (since whoever made it has not answered our doubts officially)...
I have XBReboot_1 with KV and config blocks inserted as specified by guides. The slowdowns occurs on a per game basis , and not because of the type of media used AND AFTER SEVERAL MINUTES OF PLAY (Please dont post saying u dont have slow downs unless you play the game for 10-15 minutes)... I have so far tested Street Fighter 4 (Burned DL_DVD) and Assasins Creed 2 (Internal HD)... I am getting slowdowns on BOTH... ALL my XBLA games have worked smoothly tho...
If i disconnect HD and hence im not signed in to any profile, SF4 plays at full speed for longer, but after a while it starts slowing down again...
In order to keep this post useful:
1. If you were having slow downs before, but have made XBR image changes and reflashed, completely fixing the problem, please LET US ALL KNOW!
2. Do no reply to this thread saying "my XBReebot works perfect" unless you have tried the above specified games, or games that other users list for AT LEAST 15 minutes...
3. If you know for sure 100% that the creator of XBR has identified, or recognizes that the problem is not a FLASHING problem but rather an issue with XBR itself... then let us know so we dont waste hours and hours in research and trial and error.
4. Abstain from smartass comments, there is no thread ESPECIFICALLY dedicated to figuring this out, and if there is a solution then it has not been proved/argumented to be the real reason of the slowdowns... only trying to help out, us the users, and the creators so if theyve made mistakes they can troubleshoot with our info...
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« Last Edit: December 16, 2009, 10:00:16 AM by wickwack »
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 10:01:58 AM » |
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3. If you know for sure 100% that the creator of XBR has identified, or recognizes that the problem is not a FLASHING problem but rather an issue with XBR itself... then let us know so we dont waste hours and hours in research and trial and error.
It's the xbrfw.bin where the problem occurs. No flashing problem. So until the mysterious person or somebody else with such skills will provide a patch, we have to wait. |
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 10:07:47 AM » |
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im finding my slowdowns are a per-game sort of thing, ive run 3 games on my XBR flashed unit, and had a mixed bag of results,
Halo3 - played 1hour - no slowdowns observed at all
Fable2 - played total 36 hours - slowdowns observed at specific points in the game, no correlation to time, but rather areas of the map/selected minigames
Assassins Creed - launched for 1minute 30 seconds - game unplayable as it cant even progress thru the ubisoft logo without freezing and locking the console up to the point where even the guide cant be called.
rather than a how far can you play observation, things like area in the game should be observed as it seems to me (with the limited amount of games that i have played) that its more of a position in game sort of thing
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 10:41:46 AM » |
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3. If you know for sure 100% that the creator of XBR has identified, or recognizes that the problem is not a FLASHING problem but rather an issue with XBR itself... then let us know so we dont waste hours and hours in research and trial and error.
It's the xbrfw.bin where the problem occurs. No flashing problem. So until the mysterious person or somebody else with such skills will provide a patch, we have to wait. This coming from someone who doesn't know how it works? |
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Oh wait, what you mean you weren't invited? It was in your mouth and everyone came!
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 11:48:55 AM » |
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can you eleborate the behavior of "slow down"? If it is just 1 second of freezing, it is normal as the console is reading disc/disk. If it is 1 minute of locking up, it is definitely an issue.
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strygrog
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2009, 12:03:48 PM » |
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Assassin's Creed 2 - Was able to play until it loaded the first city. Then the screen froze, bmg still played and sound effects of city being rendered. Pushing the guide button would look like it didnt work, but waiting 5 mins it would eventually come up and it would seem as the city render would progress inbetween guide presses. Tried using backup +dl running from the disc, and tried to install to harddrive using the dash, not xexloader.
Trivial Pursuit, 5th Grader - Game would sometimes not load, pressing guide button would lock the console and need a power cycle.
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wickwack
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2009, 12:45:09 PM » |
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ok well the slow down is only image related, sound always plays perfectly if i remember correctly.
when i played without HDD hence not signed in, i witnessed the games FramesPerSecond gradually slowing down, but it was a permanent issue as the frame rate would never return to full speed, just keep progressively slowing down until it became unplayable and i turned off my xbox in fear...
other times it is a similar framerate problem, but the framerate is so bad the game appears to have frozen... like for example displaying one frame every 6-8 seconds or maybe even slower. Sound i believe was still playing normally... so as someone mentioned above, you may think its frozen, but if you press the Xbox button then the dashboard thingy will eventually come up, but it takes a while since the game is running at very low FPS...
this really is the best way to describe it... very low frames per second and in many cases so slow that the console appears to be frozen... but its never really completely frozen, just very slow... also sometimes sometimes it will fail to load a game, just black screen, but a restart and second attempt will usually fix things...
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ac3
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 03:27:00 PM » |
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Might help to list the motherboard and XBR version everyone is using?. Anyway I have an Xenon with XBR_Xenon_8955_1. I tried 1921 but couldn't get it to work (3 right lights iirc).
Problems I have had so far,
Trials HD (XBLA) : Slows down to a slide show after just a minute or two.
Bioshock : Locks up at video, loading screen or about a minute into the game, crashes completely. (tried from original disc and hdd).
Just Cause Demo : I am guessing the full game has problems too, the demo slows down to slide show even during the loading screen.
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2009, 04:56:11 PM » |
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Mine has Xenon mainboard and thus far I've had slowdown problems in XBLA games such as Shadow Complex and Trials HD.
Playing Call Of Duty MW2 for hours and I've had no problem.
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wickwack
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2009, 05:48:59 PM » |
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I am using XBR_Xenon_8955_1 as well...
Yeah many people are having trouble with Trials HD, first time ive seen shadow complex on the list though... Due to overwhelming posts I conclude that Modern Warfare 2 aparently this game runs fine in XBR...
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2009, 10:46:25 PM » |
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I am using XBR_Xenon_8955_1 as well...
Yeah many people are having trouble with Trials HD, first time ive seen shadow complex on the list though... Due to overwhelming posts I conclude that Modern Warfare 2 aparently this game runs fine in XBR...
lol shadow complex works fine in menu (this is why its not reported). people just boot the game and say it works. shadow complex once a game is started comes to a CRAWL. the xbox button takes a few minutes to show up and it doesnt ever get in game (atleast, ive never had the time to let it). |
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2009, 11:32:10 PM » |
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3. If you know for sure 100% that the creator of XBR has identified, or recognizes that the problem is not a FLASHING problem but rather an issue with XBR itself... then let us know so we dont waste hours and hours in research and trial and error.
It's the xbrfw.bin where the problem occurs. No flashing problem. So until the mysterious person or somebody else with such skills will provide a patch, we have to wait. This coming from someone who doesn't know how it works? then, Could you explain the problem to us lame people, (and possibly fix it too while your at it)..... Much appreciated.  |
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chromium
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2009, 11:36:04 PM » |
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XBR_Xenon_8955_1 with kv and config injected.
Haven't done extensive testing, but all of the retail games I tried from HDD seemed to be fine, but I like I said, nothing extensive and the only one that got played for over an hour was Transformers Revenge of the Fallen. Others played briefly (10-20 minutes with no issue) were FIFA 10, Tornado Outbreak, GTA 4, Rock Band 2, Lego Star Wars TCS, Tekken 6
XBLA also mostly fine, but Trials HD drops to a slideshow very early on in the actual game and Ikaruga lost sound after a minute or so and I pressed the Guide button and the whole 360 froze.
I played the first level of Splosion Man and that was ok, I tried that because others said it was freezing near the end of the first level.
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2009, 11:50:43 PM » |
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Games that I've tried and deemed unplayable : Assassin's Creed 2, Gears of War 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, IL2: Birds of Prey, Shadow Complex
Games that played smoothly for at least 15 mins: Fable 2, Halo 3: ODST
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2009, 02:44:34 AM » |
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Tried Williams pinball seemed fine. The Saboteur worked for maybe 10min then showed signs of slow down and audio skips. HD trials, 30 seconds and it will lockup or stutter real bad. Didn't bother after those  XBR_Xenon_8955_1 with kv and config injected. also tried XBR_Xenon_8955_1 with kv only same behavior on both flashes. Also no bad blocks reported in degraded or nand rebuilder |
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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2009, 06:06:15 AM » |
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-Setup-
XBox Rev.: Falcon
Original Dash: 7531
Dash version: 8955_1
KV injected: yes
Config injected: yes
The only games that run just fine for about an hour (and probably longer) are Forza Motorsport 3 and Modern Warfare 2. Shadow Complex just dies after 10 Minutes of play with the described symptoms.
Arkham Asylum dies at the rocksteady splashscreen. Bayonetta seems to run fine, no slowdowns so far...
I wonder if it's some kind of memory leak that causes the slowdowns? Nobody really knows what patches have been applied, which functions have been altered.
But that wouldn't explain that some games run smoothly.
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2009, 06:08:01 AM » |
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done 5 xenons with no bad blocks flashed with lpt and also tried lflash all 5 lag out the same from title screen playing ghostbusters from internal and usb also tried the dvd dl
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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2009, 07:51:48 AM » |
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Is everyone using a prebuilt XBR.bin? Or has someone tried to rebuild it and/or considered what could be tried in the rebuild process?
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Crazziee
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« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2009, 10:34:41 AM » |
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Someone mentioned you could out put a debug log. Does anyone have any info on that?
Also is anyone looking into freeboot on a single nand? The reason I ask is because freeboot open source and it also does not have any problems relating to slowdown.
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