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« Reply #80 on: December 10, 2009, 05:49:49 PM » |
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It may be some issue with the way the patched kernel accesses the HDD, or the order of the files or something.
Anyone know if the same issues occur with freeboot? or ONLY with XBR?
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« Reply #81 on: December 10, 2009, 07:22:27 PM » |
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It may be some issue with the way the patched kernel accesses the HDD, or the order of the files or something.
Anyone know if the same issues occur with freeboot? or ONLY with XBR?
The patch.bin wouldn't be illegal to post here would it? If not, someone should look at building patch.bin with just he .xex check. Remove the hdd check and the .live check, to test if either are causing the issue. We can still boot xexloder from the disk drive. Requiring neither patch removed. |
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« Reply #82 on: December 10, 2009, 07:25:51 PM » |
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freeboot has the option to make and edit your own patches.
its in src/ there is a .S open it with notepad. Then use the "make" to make the new patch.
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« Reply #83 on: December 10, 2009, 07:48:38 PM » |
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It may be some issue with the way the patched kernel accesses the HDD, or the order of the files or something.
Anyone know if the same issues occur with freeboot? or ONLY with XBR?
After my own experience and a lot of feedback from another board I would say that those hangs and slowdowns are "only" present on XBR. |
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« Reply #84 on: December 10, 2009, 08:14:13 PM » |
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It may be some issue with the way the patched kernel accesses the HDD, or the order of the files or something.
Anyone know if the same issues occur with freeboot? or ONLY with XBR?
I just tested this with my Dualnand Xenon Console. While with XBR I´m having problems with freezes and lags after about 10 minutes of playing freeboot 0.02 works fine without any problems. Just played half an hour FIFA10 from usb without any issues. So it has to be a XBR related problem. |
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« Reply #85 on: December 10, 2009, 10:12:20 PM » |
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Thanks guys, im sure the issue will be addressed in a future release of XBR.
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« Reply #86 on: December 11, 2009, 01:28:18 AM » |
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question is could we theoretically replace XBR's patch.bin with the one from freeboot, or are they 2 totally separate mechanisms that arent compatible with eachother (one would assume not)
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« Reply #87 on: December 11, 2009, 02:17:27 AM » |
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question is could we theoretically replace XBR's patch.bin with the one from freeboot, or are they 2 totally separate mechanisms that arent compatible with eachother (one would assume not)
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« Reply #88 on: December 11, 2009, 02:37:51 AM » |
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ok then what makes freeboots patches more stable than the XBR ones? if they are the same, shouldnt we be expecting exactly the same bugs on both systems?
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« Reply #89 on: December 11, 2009, 03:34:19 AM » |
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maybe getting a bit off topic here but as it's quite interesting: what's the difference between freeboot and xbr? why can't we just write freeboot to the xbox nand with no second nand installed? the xbox "sees" just one nand anyway and can't decide whether it's the internal or external one, right?
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« Reply #90 on: December 11, 2009, 05:59:42 AM » |
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because freeboot uses 2x full nands, 1 for jtag, 1 for rebooting.
xbr comibnes them and relocates the updates to a diff location
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« Reply #91 on: December 11, 2009, 06:38:02 AM » |
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It may be some issue with the way the patched kernel accesses the HDD, or the order of the files or something.
Anyone know if the same issues occur with freeboot? or ONLY with XBR?
The patch.bin wouldn't be illegal to post here would it? If not, someone should look at building patch.bin with just he .xex check. Remove the hdd check and the .live check, to test if either are causing the issue. We can still boot xexloder from the disk drive. Requiring neither patch removed. There's a patch that'll automatically set the key for dev/retail - try removing it, I dare y'all  But really, only pirates will ever complain about this (who am I kidding? all the homebrew coders died) |
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« Reply #92 on: December 11, 2009, 08:32:01 AM » |
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It may be some issue with the way the patched kernel accesses the HDD, or the order of the files or something.
Anyone know if the same issues occur with freeboot? or ONLY with XBR?
The patch.bin wouldn't be illegal to post here would it? If not, someone should look at building patch.bin with just he .xex check. Remove the hdd check and the .live check, to test if either are causing the issue. We can still boot xexloder from the disk drive. Requiring neither patch removed. There's a patch that'll automatically set the key for dev/retail - try removing it, I dare y'all But really, only pirates will ever complain about this (who am I kidding? all the homebrew coders died) all i really care about is playing the 2 games i legally own from the HDD without having to put the disk in the drive for validation as i have my linux disk in the drive always |
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« Reply #93 on: December 11, 2009, 10:58:36 AM » |
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Either Icekiller has reviewed Freeboot in great detail or he wrote it. ;-) He always seems to have very rapid, precises responses to any questions about it.
As for why Freeboot requires dual nand, it could be that the author is too busy working on more important parts of the rebooter to care about single nand operation. It could be they are from or involved with the Cygnos team and it helps them with their sales. Perhaps they feel having true dual nands is more powerful/useful than a single nand like XBR. Either way, I'm sure it will be added eventually if XBR continues to improve while offering single nand.
However, it appears from user feedback that Freeboot is a little more stable than XBR at the moment.
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« Reply #94 on: December 11, 2009, 11:12:43 AM » |
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Either Icekiller has reviewed Freeboot in great detail or he wrote it. ;-) He always seems to have very rapid, precises responses to any questions about it. It could be they are from or involved with the Cygnos team and it helps them with their sales. BINGO! However, it appears from user feedback that Freeboot is a little more stable than XBR at the moment.
Seems like most of the negative feedback is suspiciously from the same group. Works fine for me. I suspect most problems were from not knowing how to deal with bad blocks, or not flashing config properly. I could have sworn that tmb mentioned that the config blocks contain critical console specific calibration info. Yet everyone seems to ignore that section of the XBR readme  |
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« Reply #95 on: December 11, 2009, 11:18:34 AM » |
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Either he has reviewed Freeboot in great detail or he wrote it. ;-) He always seems to have very rapid, precises responses to any questions about it Bingo ugh.. i didn't write Freeboot, nor do i get any money from themf or doing what i do. I do sell cygnoses, but those are limited in quantity and are usually for friends.. and i usually sell them at cost... I'm just as helpful to someone with their Xbr as with their Cygnos, i just have more experience with cygnos, + i actually read the readme.. And tiros just said that if you read the whole readme of XBr you would know why it doesn't always runs stable and what to do about it. |
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« Reply #96 on: December 11, 2009, 11:21:06 AM » |
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Tiros - are you saying the XBR problems people are having is because it wasn't flashed right? I was kind of thinking that myself and was going to try some things this weekend. I read that nandpro doesnt transfer KV correctly to XBR and to use hex editor to do manually. I am going to try that and see how it goes.
Icekiller - I have read the read me and I must be missing something regarding how to fix. What am I looking for?
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« Reply #97 on: December 11, 2009, 11:29:49 AM » |
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Tiros - are you saying the XBR problems people are having is because it wasn't flashed right? I was kind of thinking that myself and was going to try some things this weekend. I read that nandpro doesnt transfer KV correctly to XBR and to use hex editor to do manually. I am going to try that and see how it goes.
Icekiller - I have read the read me and I must be missing something regarding how to fix. What am I looking for?
its very important to know if you have badblocks and what not. flashing with nandpro doesn't reorganize bad blocks. and thats the main "flaw" in it. But it shouldn't be a function/feature of nandpro if the user actually reads the readme. Programs like Redlines (.. forgot them name .. to badblock mover orsomthing?) should help alot. |
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« Reply #98 on: December 11, 2009, 12:13:15 PM » |
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Either Icekiller has reviewed Freeboot in great detail or he wrote it. ;-) He always seems to have very rapid, precises responses to any questions about it. It could be they are from or involved with the Cygnos team and it helps them with their sales. BINGO! However, it appears from user feedback that Freeboot is a little more stable than XBR at the moment.
Seems like most of the negative feedback is suspiciously from the same group. Works fine for me. I suspect most problems were from not knowing how to deal with bad blocks, or not flashing config properly. I could have sworn that tmb mentioned that the config blocks contain critical console specific calibration info. Yet everyone seems to ignore that section of the XBR readme my feedback about instability isnt meant to be negative, its more just, well it does lag up a bit sometimes, i dont mean this to sound as bad feedback, think of it as more constructive criticism personally i like XBR, and i dont want a dual nand setup, i dont have much room left under my dvdrom to run yet more wires, i already have the jtag wires, the internal sata mod and the SPI flasher all wired in, and damn its messy, once im convinced i wont need to reflash again i will remove the SPI programming wires, but i like the inside of my console to be clean and as far as im concerned i dont need another nand in there XBR works perfectly fine, minus the fact that i have to reboot after 4-6 hours of gameplay (which to me says i need a break anyway to avoid eye strain) |
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« Reply #99 on: December 11, 2009, 12:25:13 PM » |
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I could have sworn that tmb mentioned that the config blocks contain critical console specific calibration info. Yet everyone seems to ignore that section of the XBR readme Nope.. Some people I know use the config, some don't. Each has slowdowns and freezes.. So it's not (atleast not only) the config |
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