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Author Topic: restore hdd game install after ban with nand backup?  (Read 121683 times)
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« on: November 06, 2009, 10:06:34 AM »

ok ive been reading alot of posts about the new ban wave on xbox live and that it removes the hdd game install from the console perm
this sucks if you have a 250gb hdd and just want to keep using the 360 after a ban offline

so i was thinking what if we take a nand backup of the new 8xxxx update before a ban then if we get banned simply restore the nand i know it would still be banned from live without a new keyvault but shouldnt this restore the hard drive install option so we can atleast make use of are hdds?

they must remove it from the dash once banned because the hdds still work in other 360s


also i have my cpu key and spare keyvaults so if i get banned would a new keyvault restore the game install option by itself or would i need a fresh 8xxxx update
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2009, 12:52:38 PM »

What are you talking about cant install games to the hdd thats bs but ill see if my friend can do it it dosent matter if it ban or not + then they ban you they blacklist the xbox from live not change anything on the nand.
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 12:56:14 PM »

Actually he his right, for some reason a banned console cannot install to HDD.
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2009, 09:13:27 PM »

what the **** my friend is banned but he still can install games to the hdd ?
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 09:19:23 PM »

How recent was your friends ban? People caught up in this ban wave are getting their machines locked down like this.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 11:50:55 PM »

just today Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2009, 04:49:32 AM »

So guy pointed out in XBS forums that he achieved it successfully.
Got a nand backup before he got banned. Restoring nand restored the hdd install functionnality.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=695305
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2009, 05:09:04 AM »

i'm interested in this... basically you'd need to backup your nand everytime a new kernel comes through xboxlive... and as soon as you get banned and hdd installs are blocked, you flash your latest nand backup, and hdd installs would work again? Correct? no need for jtag or cpukeys right?
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2009, 05:15:50 AM »

yes for flash the cpu key is not needed maybe ill try this method later
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2009, 07:57:01 AM »

It would be nice to see a file compare as well. Before banned, and after banned nand dumps.
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2009, 08:47:49 AM »

They delete secdata.bin. crl.bin, odd.bin and extended.bin...
Good luck restoring that (particularly after update for 8xxx dash/kernel) Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2009, 09:36:05 AM »

you don't need cpukey to dump or restore a nand... so as long as you have a backup of the nand not banned yet, you could flash this back and get hdd installation to work again

Also As soon as your gamertag is touched on a banned console, it'll come corrupt on an unbanned 360 as well.... so you can't gather achiements on a banned console and take that onto xboxlive
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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2009, 04:54:46 PM »

my boy just got banned

only played a handful of games, and these ARE of originals that we own,
as he's at his mums half the week (were there is no chipped console and lots of originals)
then at mine the rest, were i brought 360, and backup up his games so he dont have to keep remebering to bring them over to mine
never ran um throught ABGX etc
he did get one warning that it was scrathed about a day ago, i just burnt another and all was good ? maybe a sign ?

anyhows back on topic ! i HAVE got backups from all his past updates and the current Smiley will dump again now its been banned
and do some comparing ......

Mick ...
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2009, 02:43:29 AM »

I got banned even though i wasnt playing on xbox live. I always played offline. Anyways, so ive been playing Modern Warfare 2 now, and have been getting achievements and being able to perform game saves without my console corrupting anything.
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2009, 05:36:13 AM »

the console doesn't corrupt anything, it locks the savefiles to the banned console.
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2009, 08:18:23 AM »

Ahhhhh .... makes sense Smiley happy days Wink
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2009, 02:06:38 PM »

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/consoleban

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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2009, 10:50:41 PM »

Anyone (dumb enough) who wants to delete crl.bin? I made an app that does just that Smiley (only 16MB dumps though)

the console doesn't corrupt anything, it locks the savefiles to the banned console.
According to xor's blog, it'll just put your box into crl.bin and thereby lose the ability to sign...
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2009, 07:08:21 AM »

i could try that out i have backup of my box (before it was banned).

i dont have my cpu key for that box tho.
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2009, 07:46:25 AM »

well i have dumps before and after ban ..
they DO NOT mess with CRL, or KV or extendedKV, all the changes seem to be in secdata only ....

at 0x02E is the biggest change ... mines now at 40 (were as it was always at 00)
alot of other stuff changes, but i think that changes every boot anyhows ?

but file compare or CRL is EXCATLY the same before ban, and after ....


(althou trying to flash back my original NAND before ban (same dash) has given me 3RL 4422 !?)
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