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dtrmad2004
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2009, 06:09:25 AM »

Yeah, it is 7371  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2009, 06:19:24 AM »

But the post-2009-06 (non-refurb) boxes have 7371, and still the new bootloader. At least that was my impression.
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2009, 06:45:00 AM »

Ok, I'll try exploiting it really soon and let you know Smiley

Service date is 2009 05 13
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2009, 03:07:00 PM »

A couple of weeks ago I've got a new Jasper, built June-20th 2009 with a 7363 Kernel. 
Any info about consolles dated between 18 and 30 of June?
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2009, 04:09:15 PM »

A week ago I ordered a new Arcade from Futureshop.ca and got a August 2008 Falcon!  I was expecting a new 65 nm GPU Jasper.  Not sure if I got lucky, or unlucky here.  Futureshop/Bestbuy in Canada probably have a backlog of old stock to clear so it might be a good place for Canadians to buy right now.
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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2009, 04:01:24 AM »

Where does the first stage bootloader reside physically (hardware wise)?

Assuming the second stage bootloader is in the NAND flash and part of the JTAG hack.
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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2009, 04:30:48 AM »

litium: unfortuantely, without the information which CB you have (and you can find out this only by dumping NAND), this information doesn't help us here Sad.


modrobert: Please ask in another thread. This has already been discussed (short: 1BL is in cpu bootrom, 2BL is in nand, old 2BL won't run after update since fuses, which are on cpu die, were updated to blacklist the old 2BL)
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« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2009, 05:04:46 AM »

modrobert: Please ask in another thread. This has already been discussed (short: 1BL is in cpu bootrom, 2BL is in nand, old 2BL won't run after update since fuses, which are on cpu die, were updated to blacklist the old 2BL)

Thanks. I didn't know the acronyms "1BL" etc., easy to find now.
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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2009, 11:39:01 AM »

middle of july i got my falcon back from repair (motherboard replacement), i did not install recent update. i dumped nand and cb version is 5771. is this version exploitable?
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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2009, 11:43:08 AM »

6723 is exploitable so I'm pretty sure 5771 is.
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« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2009, 03:10:39 PM »

Unfortunately, 5771 is already fixed. 67xx is for jasper, 57xx is for falcon.

The list of fixed CBs is: 1922, 1923, 1940, 4571, 4572, 4578, 4579, 5771, 6750 (CD = 8453 for all of them).
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« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2009, 10:30:07 AM »

Unfortunately, 5771 is already fixed. 67xx is for jasper, 57xx is for falcon.

The list of fixed CBs is: 1922, 1923, 1940, 4571, 4572, 4578, 4579, 5771, 6750 (CD = 8453 for all of them).

I'm a little bit confused..
My CB (falcon) is 5761. Does the 57xx just indicate the modelversion like falcon (67xx = jasper) ?

So my CB is exploitable and will work with XeLL ?
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« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2009, 10:53:56 AM »

5761 is exploitable falcon.

You can't make any comparisations with ranges or so.

The list of exploitable CBs is:

1888, 1902, 1903: Xenon, but you need to use 1920/1921 in the exploit image
1920,1921: exploitable xenon
4558: exploitable Zephyr
5761, 5766, 5770: exploitable falcon
6712, 6723: exploitable jasper


The list of fixed CBs is: 1922, 1923, 1940, 4571, 4572, 4578, 4579, 5771, 6750 (CD = 8453 for all of them).

If you have a CB/CD version which isn't in either list, please ask here and don't make any assumptions.
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« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2009, 11:08:35 AM »

Thank you!
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« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2009, 07:00:09 PM »



1888, 1902, 1903: Xenon, but you need to use 1920/1921 in the exploit image


I don't get this, the box I dumped has a 1903 CB but worked fine with the 1st Xenon_hack  Huh

Sorry if this is a stupid question  Embarrassed
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« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2009, 07:19:14 PM »

By what I understood, CB1903 does not support "zeropairing with patch" which means it will only boot a clean 1888 kernel without patch with pairing set to zero.  CB1920 can be setup to boot straight into 4532 kernel while zero paired (factory mode) which is required by this hack.

Zeropairing is important because  it "allows to bypass" a protection in the CPU fuses making possible a single image which should work with any console even without previous knowledge of the CPU encryption key.

A box with 1888 or 1903 CB will run 1920 happily as you just saw.
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« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2009, 07:47:29 PM »

Yes, thanks, that's the correct explanation. The first xenon_hack uses 1920, so everything is fine.
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« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2009, 09:12:53 PM »

Ahh, thanks. I am still learning Cheesy I'm great with hardware but crap when it comes to software   Smiley
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« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2009, 09:43:00 PM »

So the you really only need to worry about the newest machines?
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« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2009, 03:06:54 PM »

I just dumped a jasper with manufacturing date of 2009-6-12 and I have confirmed that it also has the old one.

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Manufacturing Date: 2009-06-12
CB Version: 6723
Type: Arcade with 512MB Nand

well tha's odd, I got an arcade (PAL) today, it's a jasper with 512Mb nand, mfg 2009-05-22 came with K:2.0.7363.0 BK:2.0.1888.0

I suppose mine has the old bootloader, I'd be glad to confirm once the jasper jtag hack is out.

how did you dump your jasper nand btw?
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