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Author Topic: DVDkey Benq/Liteon key extractor  (Read 330626 times)
jimaek22
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« Reply #340 on: September 04, 2008, 03:52:01 AM »

Hello to all.

I have a few questions for you experts.

1) If you make something wrong to the construction of the RS232 to TTL converter, when you start the procedure of dumping the key can you damage the drive?

2) As i read you can construct the RS232 to TTL converter by using the MAX232 chip. As i checked the datasheets of MAX3232 and MAX232, it seems that the do the same job with the difference that the MAX232 requires 5v in order to operate whereas MAX3232 can work either by 3.3 or 5.
My question is:

If i supply the MAX232 with 5V from the PSU of my PC and not with the 3.3 of the XBOX360 controller, is their any chance to damage the drive?

3) I built an RS232 to TTL converter based on ST3232 chip. I did not manage to dump the key although i followed the guide (WITH NO CONNECTIVITY KIT) step by step. The error i was accepting from DVDKEY was the following:

c:\DVDKEY>dvdkey 9000
Port 9000
Drive Present
Wait about 20 seconds

It didn't work, sorry reg1: 54
DVD key:
00000000000000000000000000000000
Seems NOT a good DVD Key!!! 00 00
KEY.BIN saved

I am sure that the COM communication is ok as i tested my RS232 adapter by looping the tx and rx cables to the hyper terminal. Also my port has the right setting (3F8/IRQ4).
I tried several times with a lot of different variants of the dumping procedure with no result i was taking the same error all the time.

After testing and testing i realised that i had missplaced the tx,rx cables to the RS232 adapter (to wrong RS232 pins). I corrected them and tried to dump again with the same outcome (same error as before).

The problem is that now when i turn on the 360 it starts up ok no errors on the screen but when i put either games or movies to the drive, it does not read them and then i get "Unreadable error".

Is it any chance that i destroyed my drive or just i had a laser de-calibration?

If it is the second case i will build a new converter based on the MAX3232 chip and not to the ST3232 as it seems to have differences.


Also, if you use the connectivity kit is it mandatory to join the two jumpers/solder pads for TxD and RxD on the drive?

If you use an RS232 to TTL converter MAX232 based, will the IC operate if you supply it with 3.3 volts and not with 5V?

Can somebody clarify the following as it is critical to the dumping process:

I have read to some tuts that the drive must be half opened in open state and other say that the drive must be opened in close state.

Can someone that managed to grab the key clarify the above?

Thank you all in advance, i will appreciate your help.
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« Reply #341 on: September 04, 2008, 03:52:53 AM »

sorry for double posting my damned browser!
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« Reply #342 on: September 04, 2008, 04:04:07 AM »

Buildt my onw rs 232 converter.

Worked like a charm.

Thanks for the Great work.


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« Reply #343 on: September 04, 2008, 05:42:31 AM »


3) I built an RS232 to TTL converter based on ST3232 chip. I did not manage to dump the key although i followed the guide (WITH NO CONNECTIVITY KIT) step by step. The error i was accepting from DVDKEY was the following:

c:\DVDKEY>dvdkey 9000
Port 9000
Drive Present
Wait about 20 seconds

It didn't work, sorry reg1: 54
DVD key:
00000000000000000000000000000000
Seems NOT a good DVD Key!!! 00 00
KEY.BIN saved


Have you shorted the necessary points inside the LiteOn drive?
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« Reply #344 on: September 04, 2008, 09:47:47 AM »


.......

If you use an RS232 to TTL converter MAX232 based, will the IC operate if you supply it with 3.3 volts and not with 5V?

Can somebody clarify the following as it is critical to the dumping process:

I have read to some tuts that the drive must be half opened in open state and other say that the drive must be opened in close state.

Can someone that managed to grab the key clarify the above?

Thank you all in advance, i will appreciate your help.


The Maxim232CPE chip (using 3.3V from the drive), will not allow you to successfully dump the key; I tried on a spare liteon and ended up getting the same error message as you. This is possibly due to the fact that the Maxim232 chip requires 5V to operate, rather than the 3.3V which is being drawn from the drive. If you end up drawing 5V from your pc, i think you may run the risk of damaging the drive, altho im not 100% sure about this, correct me if im wrong.

with regards to your read errors, does the drive load the contents of the disc? or does it just fail to recognise the disc at all?
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« Reply #345 on: September 04, 2008, 02:14:56 PM »

O my goodness. After ordering a  sample DB9 connector from Tyco electronics, I got it in the mail, it shipped all the way from Germany. Guess what. I got the wrong one. I got the one that goes on the motherboard of the PC, not the connector that plugs into the PC. Goodness. 2 weeks wasted, and 0 dollars wasted so I guess it wasn't a total loss.
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yeah lowering the default reading speed from 12x to let's say 5x, would really let GTA4 (or any of your games) benefit from way less popups and loading times.
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« Reply #346 on: September 04, 2008, 02:40:07 PM »

Can somebody confirm these orange points for me. Thanks advance.
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« Reply #347 on: September 04, 2008, 03:34:52 PM »

The large "point" is most definitely not TXD. That's a ground or power point.
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« Reply #348 on: September 04, 2008, 04:02:33 PM »



I did mine like this... Because of the heat the tracks came out, so I didn't have much choice...
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« Reply #349 on: September 04, 2008, 04:39:03 PM »

hi guys, i've just built this



now how can i test if it's working properly? i don't have a lite-on drive to test yet, but i wanted to test this on some terminal emulator (or something else), but i don't understand how to test if it's sending/receiving data properly

please tell me how can i do it, i don't know anything about serial/COM stuff

cheers

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« Reply #350 on: September 04, 2008, 10:26:41 PM »

Got my RS232 to TTL converter today so should be able to test this soon just a Question my PC has has 2 serial plugs does it matter what one I use?
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« Reply #351 on: September 05, 2008, 12:47:01 AM »


.......

If you use an RS232 to TTL converter MAX232 based, will the IC operate if you supply it with 3.3 volts and not with 5V?

Can somebody clarify the following as it is critical to the dumping process:

I have read to some tuts that the drive must be half opened in open state and other say that the drive must be opened in close state.

Can someone that managed to grab the key clarify the above?

Thank you all in advance, i will appreciate your help.


The Maxim232CPE chip (using 3.3V from the drive), will not allow you to successfully dump the key; I tried on a spare liteon and ended up getting the same error message as you. This is possibly due to the fact that the Maxim232 chip requires 5V to operate, rather than the 3.3V which is being drawn from the drive. If you end up drawing 5V from your pc, i think you may run the risk of damaging the drive, altho im not 100% sure about this, correct me if im wrong.

with regards to your read errors, does the drive load the contents of the disc? or does it just fail to recognise the disc at all?


Couldn't you then use the 5v source on the dvd power connector? I also have a MAX232 chip but have not yet tested it.

I'll do some testing later and post the results.
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« Reply #352 on: September 05, 2008, 03:11:19 AM »

I have the question  Huh or com1 has to be integrated with the mainboard or he can be from the external controller PCI COM >> http://www.sunix.com.tw/cc/en/detail.php?class_a=&prod_id=287 (becose i not have COM on my motherboard)
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« Reply #353 on: September 05, 2008, 05:13:54 AM »

Upon further inspection of the datasheet; as a test, I connected Vcc and Gnd to the drive, and desoldered the RxD and TxD wires from the drive. I then shorted the RxD and TxD on the MAX232CPE chip and ran hyperterminal to establish whether the chip can actually operate at 3.3v. Surprisingly the chip does echo the inputted text back to the screen  Huh

If this is the case, the MAX232CPE should work, altho it still doesnt allow for successful dumping of the key.
Any ideas?

Btw, the bridging of the RxD and TxD on the liteon board works, because i am able to successfully extract the key using the MAX3232 chip.
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« Reply #354 on: September 05, 2008, 06:58:59 AM »

Hi.

I've started to solder the ttl->rs232 converter but then I just realised that I don't have a COM-port on my mother-board.

Does anyone know how I can connect the SATA port to one computer and the serial-connector to another one?

It should be possible to listen on the SATA-port with one program and the COM-Port with another right?
Like having one hyperterminal for the COM and another for the SATA...

Am I totally screwed here? (my laptop does have a com-port but not sata (?))
Not sure if my employer will be happy if  I disassemble it just to find out...

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« Reply #355 on: September 05, 2008, 07:16:21 AM »

hi guys, i've just built this converter

http://beta.ivancover.com/wiki/index.php/Image:Xbox_360_lite-on_rs232_simple.jpg

now how can i test if it's working properly? i don't have a lite-on drive to test yet, but i wanted to test this on some terminal emulator (or something else), but i don't understand how to test if it's sending/receiving data properly

please tell me how can i do it, i don't know anything about serial/COM stuff

cheers
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« Reply #356 on: September 05, 2008, 07:26:23 AM »

i have a MAX232N chip, i saw almast all the specs about this chip and MAX3232. could you please teel me if it can work?
here are the links for MAX3232 MAXIM corp.http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet/maxim/MAX3222-MAX3241.pdf
and MAX232N from TEXAS INSTRUMENTS http://beta.octopart.com/Texas_Instruments__MAX232N.pdf
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« Reply #357 on: September 05, 2008, 08:18:18 AM »

hi guys, i've just built this converter

http://beta.ivancover.com/wiki/index.php/Image:Xbox_360_lite-on_rs232_simple.jpg

now how can i test if it's working properly? i don't have a lite-on drive to test yet, but i wanted to test this on some terminal emulator (or something else), but i don't understand how to test if it's sending/receiving data properly

please tell me how can i do it, i don't know anything about serial/COM stuff

cheers

Hi,

Connect the converter to your COM1 with a (male to male) Serial Cable

Join the Tx and Rx cables

Run Hyperterminal with these settings: 9600,8,None,1

Type anyhing in the console, you should receive the same text as an echo...
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« Reply #358 on: September 05, 2008, 08:56:34 AM »

DO ANY OF YOU REALISE THAT NEARLY EVERY QUESTION ON THIS PAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN ANSWERERD ??

Okay, theres a lot of pages, and a lot of crap filling it out, but its educational, read it, and enjoy the warm fuzzy feeling you get way down low when when you sit with yes, a pen and paper, god forbid, write notes of what your reading, 5 minutes in you'll have a complete whoa-to-go guide of what you need, instead of these guys answering the same question 8 times.

Sorry if i offend, but read goddammit, read. its ALL there.

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« Reply #359 on: September 05, 2008, 05:14:57 PM »

3) I built an RS232 to TTL converter based on ST3232 chip. I did not manage to dump the key although i followed the guide (WITH NO CONNECTIVITY KIT) step by step. The error i was accepting from DVDKEY was the following:

c:\DVDKEY>dvdkey 9000
Port 9000
Drive Present
Wait about 20 seconds

It didn't work, sorry reg1: 54
DVD key:
00000000000000000000000000000000
Seems NOT a good DVD Key!!! 00 00
KEY.BIN saved

Same situation here, talked to geremia about that, he suggested us (me and guerriero_di_pace) to invert tx & rx and after that it worked like a charm... The problem was simply this: tx of my ebay serial interface has to go to rx of the liteon and tx of the liteon has to go to rx of the serial interface . In this case we have not tx->tx & rx->rx .
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