Glad you got there AVRbuster. I am pretty sure you can get your timings even better, it's all about that bloody reset wire/Aerial!

We need the VHDL files in order to play with things. These are not available for RGH2.0 as that's xecuter work and they don't release such things. So only available for original RGH. Maybe worth trying in a slim then, obviously not phats as they are fine with the original hack.

AVRbuster

I have never done that modification that you suggested, never had a need. For me the key to all of this is the cpu_reset wire. On all slims and phats with RGH 2.0.

I did another RGH 2.0 today on Jasper 16MB BB using one of these chips. Resaonably good boot times. Similar to slims really.

I found that a 10R resistor didn't really achieve much difference. I have a 50R pot here that I did experiment with in 5-10R range and again not much difference. Also using the RG174 didn't make much difference. i ended up with the same as I do on slims. 42CM wire coiled. On the jasper I coil it infront of the AV port that the chip is fitted onto. There is a free area next to the BGA chip, then route the wire along the side of the heatsinks in a straight line to the topside cpu-reset point.

Also did a quich experiment to see if bridging the 'phat' point made any difference... it didn't.

I am wondering if we could create our own file for this chip. I have been dissapointed with the results when I have the cpu-reset wire 10mm away from the point it's soldered too. In theory it should be the best place to get great glitch times, ie fitting the chip underneath right next pin 2. So i am wondering if it's down to the jed file created and that the timings are based on longer wires for this point. I did read some time ago a post by blackadder suggesting that this would be the best method to get good timings and that just one parameter needed changing with a possible of 4 ish (I think) variants. Food for thought.

AVRbuster

The fans should pulse every 5 secs approx.

That's right I don't mean C5, it's the slim point I mean.

I used a phat chip with D1-3 removed in the end, with link from D3A to regulator. I used the phat version as coolrunner is switched to phat for RGH 2.0 on a phat and also matrix V1 phat point bridged for RGH 2.0, so that was my logic.

Looks ok to me. c5 bridged? Have you removed D3 and made the link for a stable 1.8V?.

I couldn't get mine to glitch with the reset wire going from top to bottom, hence I ended up just topside. I didn't use the ground on the coax at either end, it also wouldn't glitch with 30cm of coax it needed to be shorter. I ended up with pretty good glitch times, a lot of the time they are instant.

If you are pretty sure that you have wired it all correctly and that your ecc image is fine, device programmed correctly then I would concentrate on the reset wire, in my experience it's what caused the problems.

AVRbuster

I ended up on the topside for the reset. I used some RG174 coax for that point. As you have suggested it went on top of the fan shroud. The wire was just long enough to fit the fan shroud underneath. If I went longer than that then my boot times increased.I would imagine that like the slim that every console is a little different and it takes some time to get the best time for a specific console. It's a pain in the arse.

Thank you for your thanks. I was going to give up on it. I left the console on and left the room, came back in and xell was there!

Thanks for the heads up on the stable 1.8V. Read that ages ago but never really had the need to do it.

I have now got the glitch times into xell so that they are a lot better. Sometimes glitch is instant and 9 times out of 10 under a minute. Unfortunately there is no xebuild that works with a jasper so I will have to wait for that.

Your falcon should work quite well with this chip. so stick at it and you will get there. In my opinion there is nothing special what so ever about the coolrunner and this chip works just as well. Good luck

Is the falcon that you are glitching RGH 2.0 or the original glitch?

This chip is great on falcons and jaspers (with 68nF added) with orginal glitch, usually glitch is pretty instant.

I used a PHAT board for RGH 2.0 with no modification.

I have got this working now. Poor glitch times at the moment into xell, measured in minutes not seconds! But it's working.

Jasper BB 16MB
X360glitch chip
Version A Xecuter XSVF
C5 Bridged
Use Slim points on chip (don't use J4A.J5A, incidentally J5A and J9 are one and the same point, if you use the 2 you obviously get instant RROD as somebody posted earlier, but there's the reason).

I have used RG174 for the reset wire, used conventional point underneath and have gone through to topside. I haven't used a resistor in series on the reset wire. So will have a play with that to see if I can get the times down. It is possible to mount the chip underside so that reset length is almost nothing, but when I have tried this for instance on slims, it has never improved things and I always ended up with a coil of wire.

So this chip does work with RGH 2.0, just need to get boot times down, oh and wait for a full working nand solution for jaspers.

Didn't mention a 680pF so not sure where you got that from!!!!?? BTW it's not a 680pF cap, it's actually 68nF. But anyway obviously not fitted as I am indeed using RGH 2.0. I have used 28 of these chips, generally with no problems at all.

Hmmm copper core wire doesn't work?. There's not much wire that isn't copper core, pretty much all multicore wire is copper core as indeed is much coax.

Anyway no joy with this as yet. I was sure I read to ush TX XSVF C file, wrong. Needs to be A or D. No more RROD with these files whether 10R is there or not. Still no glitch though.

My install of this does not work either.

Console Jasper 16MB
X360glitch - Slim Version of Board
C5 Bridged
10R resistor fitted.
Wired using slim pads for J4 and 5

Xecuter Version C file used for CPLD

Interestingly if I do not have the 10R resistor fitted then I get 3 red lights, sometimes 2. Sometimes it's instant and other times it will take 2 or 3 reset cycles.


With the resistor fitted I can hear NO reset of the console, ie no deviation of fan speed every 5 seconds or so. 

EDIT: Reprogrammed CPLD with Version B file and I can now hear reset via the fans. Still no glitch though. Maybe need to play around with the reset wire.

Well to me logic says that this chip should work with RGH 2.0.

I assume you have the diodes/caps/resistors stripped like a slim version of this board? and C5 bridged?. Also do you have a 10R resistor fitted?.

I have just dumped my console here, so will have a bash at it.

Well I have got aJasper here that's at 14179 so it's going to need RGH 2.0. I am going to have a crack at it with one of these chips. Not 100% sure of the wiring to be honest.

From a quick look we don't use J4 on RGH 2.0. For J5 not sure which J5 we should use?, assume same as for slim?

So has anybody tried to get these chips to work with RGH 2.0 on a phat console?. If anybody has has success please post here.

jackinthexbox

Would help if I wired it correctly, fool I am. Sometimes I miss the obvious!

Used quite a few of these now on all variants, always get good boot times, slims need a bit of fiddling around, same as other chips at twice the price. Shame the people behind the chip can't be arsed to correct there install instructions.

Well I can't get this chip to work on a slim I have here. Done a few falcons and jaspers now but the slim is giving me grief.

All of the chips I purchased were the falcon type, so I have removed the relevant diodes, caps and resistors so that the board is now the same as a slim type, also added C1B which I believe should be 270pF?. Reprogrammed CPLD for Slim, using NAND-X and JTAG tool. Also created ECC file using JTAG tool and wrote using JTAG tool.

I have bridged C5. Have tried a 50cm wire for J9 and also a short a wire as possible, this console has never glitched.

Any suggestions would be very welcome, thanks.

With R3 bridged I had cold boot problems on falcons. Console would glitch fine for hours, next day from cold boot
, nothing until the console warmed up. Found this thread and moved the bridge point and the cold boot problem was fixed.

Have successfully reporgrammed these using a nand-x. No bridging required. I spliced off the coolrunner cable.

Couldn't get this chip to glitch with any speed on a 16MB jasper, tried the 68NF fix with no improvement. Fitted a coolrunner and had the same problem, added 68NF cap fix and console boots like it's a JTAG. Posting this info for anybody with Jasper problems.

Awww come on, your post is full of Hypocrisy, I guess for most people they know beans are indeed beans.

A case in point you would be perfectly happy for carranzafp to sell this solution in a dongle based format with software?. I dont think so, case of double standards here I am afraid. Maybe you would be happier if he never dislcosed his work and kept it for himself only, or even happier if all his work was protected and sold as a hardware solution?.

I really cannot undertsand anyones problem with this (No I was not offererd it, and no I have not purchased it).

Yes this will surface given time if it is indeed true.

You do not all sit there dissing team excuter for all the info that they rape from the scene and commercialise and dress it up as there own work?. Overpriced raped/hyped bull$#!t is what they stand for and I have not seen 1 post here dissing them.

Good luck to him is what I say.

Try mouser.com

The stock on the site is always up to date, plus delivery worldwide is fast, I have ordered twice from them now and stock arrived in 2 days on both ocassions (to the UK). In fact it is easier, qucker and also cheaper than ordering from any mainline SST distributor in the UK, shame really.

I think there is a post in the general section about this if you take a look. I have had a quick look at the emualtion tech specs and it looks like it will do the job. i assume that willems socket is the same as that which he fits to his adapters, I am pretty sure its footprint is too big for the board layout, although you could obviously remove the decoupler you still have a prob with the xtal. You coud always hard wire a PLCC adapter from the pads like carazanafp has done.